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Posted by icedragon, Sunday, 15 January 2012 8:03:12 AM
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Gday ice dragon.
My thoughts are these ,without leadership change Iran will be at war in this year. Maybe not full on but my pick is yes short sharp war. A two different country's in one harsh miss use of internal power and external policy's sees no wins for them. You will soon get USA are monsters posts here be aware. But too unfocused one sided view that is, Iran makes its own troubles Posted by Belly, Sunday, 15 January 2012 3:58:47 PM
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The type of rhetoric coming out of Iran, shows there is something very wrong, with their system. Iran is geared up for confrontation at any time, and albeit without fear. Either the regime is mad or they have the martyr syndrome. What ever it is, is going to cause a war, let alone declaring another country obliterated. This facility under a mountain, may even be cause for a bigger bang.
Posted by 579, Sunday, 15 January 2012 4:38:12 PM
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the real crisis..is israel having over 400 bombs
and no oversight..no checks whatso-ever the real problem..is israelies..and usa complicity the power these types hold..has become serverly corrupted the conduct exadudicial murders..with fake aussie passport's can plot 911..carry it out right under goerge bushes nose then lie abbout wepons of mass destraction.. and murder 1 million iraqies [just to get a base from which to attack iran..[with lies] see that peak oil...is on its way oil rich..yet cant refine its own petro chemicals in its own lands..[come on funny..he he] its been over 25 years since usa gifted a nuke plant and its only just now running..so by the time peak oil runs out..they might have an other one[or have an israelie raid to kill yet more men of science sorry but this topic is one of many..[one of 4 right here on olo in the last week suddenly sprouting all over the web http://whatreallyhappened.com/ i will say the intent to attack iran will be over..as soon as it begins http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/12/31/5-minutes-to-self-immolation-of-the-israeli-empire/ so am trying to save israelies from their own death wish more than concerned about others... so lied about as to be clearly obvious..to all..[not blinded by fear] Posted by one under god, Sunday, 15 January 2012 4:40:47 PM
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dim/dikkk cheeney..[who planed and exicuted 911]
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=17356 using precedance teqnology..now noted in smart bombs actually admits..he was willing..to dress usa solgers..as iranians.. to begin ww3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZM7ppkVCT8&feature=player_embedded some old tricks http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2012/01/israeli-mossad-agents-posed-as-cia-spies-to-recruit-terrorists-to-fight-against-iran/ its all only a matter of pretext http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2012/01/iran-usisraeli-false-flag-attack-may-be.html out of context used by the same old tricksters http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/07/03/us-israel-iran-submarine-idUSTRE5621XZ20090703 http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2012/01/clash-of-civilization-iran-part-ii/ but heck this isnt about any discission is it its to complain about my posts..and get me off line i have had my warning but must do as i need to do..no more deaths only a life lived well..honours the living lifegiving good [god] no death serves the god who made all life for the record http://www.examiner.com/nonpartisan-in-national/us-constantly-violates-war-law-arrest-obama-before-false-flag-war-on-iran phycopaths have no empathy http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/brian-basham-beware-corporate-psychopaths--they-are-still-occupying-positions-of-power-6282502.html lets not forget china/russia http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/01/russia-should-anything-happen-to-iran-this-will-be-a-direct-threat-to-our-national-security.html are our leaders that frightend http://the-diplomat.com/2012/01/09/five-reasons-not-to-attack-iran/?all=true http://www.economicnoise.com/2012/01/11/the-black-hole-of-government/ http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28654 http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28648 we will find out all they been doing http://nsnbc.wordpress.com/2012/01/14/mossad%C2%B4s-deep-throats-blare-murder-at-teheran/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPDA7HjfTEg&feature=email http://americanfreepress.net/?p=2309 http://www.roytov.com/articles/israeliattackoniran.htm please comment on specific links not just complain...[about the lump of em dont complain..about things you dont dare explain the truth is out there if your not blided by hate Posted by one under god, Sunday, 15 January 2012 5:16:45 PM
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The best chance anyone has got with Iran is it imploding like Egypt, Syria, and a few others. I think Israel would prefer this too and no doubt there's operations going on to try and instigate it.
Posted by StG, Sunday, 15 January 2012 8:32:20 PM
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An interesting thread so far.
Iran will not be able to do what it wants with so many other countries in the world willing to condone sanctions against it. All countries these days cannot thrive unless they have a thriving trade for imports and exports, and if this is curtailed, their people's way of life will be adversely affected and this will cause even more discontent internally. I agree there could be a civil war in Iran soon because of this. Another interesting question is who is ordering/carrying out these killings of Iran's nuclear scientists/personnel? Iran's Government are hell-bent on blaming all those 'evil Western Governments' for these murders, but what if they are being planned and carried out by someone from their own country? Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 15 January 2012 10:20:22 PM
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Yes interesting and focused refreshing.
OUG mate, too many links, think not one of us can look at that many at once. Posted by Belly, Monday, 16 January 2012 4:45:24 AM
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Yes internal uprising is about all that is going to delay or stop a strike now. Even an uprising may serve to blind a strike at nuclear facilities. Iran threatening the arabs for upping oil output. I think the regime has got to go as well, to few people with the ultimate power.
Posted by 579, Monday, 16 January 2012 7:25:23 AM
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Yes finding the responses refreshing and balanced.
We however do not live in that country and under the conditions its people do. Seems to me both fundamentalist and freedom lovers live there. And too that as said several times here, it will be decided by who ever controls the country what fate awaits them, good luck freedom lovers. Posted by Belly, Monday, 16 January 2012 4:03:16 PM
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icedragon,
(Will the iran nuclear crisis turn into a disaster?) There's no "crisis" - just political brinkmanship at work setting the stage for a possible future event. (Will their military actually block the Strait of Hormuz?) That's what the whole Middle East conflict is about. If you can't own the resources outright, then you have to control the supply. This is what the Russia/Georgia conflict over Ossetia was really about - a pipeline that would have bypassed Russia's distribution monopoly from the Caspian by now going directly into Turkey. (Will Israel bomb their nuclear facilities?) Why not? They've done it before in Iraq and Syria. (Why does an oil-rich country need atomic power?) The US & France convinced the Shah that he needed it and sold them the reactors accordingly. Unfortunately once you have more than two reactors, it becomes uncommercial unless you do your own refining. Iran expects to be exporting $1billion of electrical power into Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Iraq, Pakistan, Nakhichevan, Turkey and Turkmenistan later this year and into Russia next year. (Will a nuclear iran trigger a Sunni nation arms race?) Iran is not an Arab state but what Arab states are suggesting this is going to happen? Ironically, Iran and Israel were once "natural allies" and developed missile systems together. To gain perspective history should be examined over decades, not over short-term news cycles, particularly those controlled by self-interest groups. This is looking rather like another "WMD" scenario. Posted by rache, Monday, 16 January 2012 8:48:56 PM
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rache that, to me, looks like a press release from a self interested group.
You had to go back to a far different form of government to find common ground . And while you recommend looking to the past,my fear is this part of the world is intensely interested in just that. Continuing to look way back to the Crusades to define todays thoughts. The ak47 in use miss information and lies, will not in the end hide this nations intentional confrontations. Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 5:57:27 AM
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self intrest belly
[i know you dont read my links..so quote this GLOBAL INTERNET VOTING FIRM BUYS U.S. ELECTION RESULTS REPORTING FIRM - http://lonestarwatchdog.blogspot.com/2012/01/global-internet-voting-firm-buys-us.html Thank you www.blackboxvoting.org thing is mate its a clever game paid for by big money http://www.bushstole04.com/monetarysystem/kill_democracy.htm [spending like they know.. there is a big payday comming]... http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/11thmarble.php thus plenty to spend...now before it all falls in a heap http://mondoweiss.net/2012/01/gingrich-get-5-million-for-saying-palestinians-are-invented-people-lord-why-am-i-so-cynical.html A week or so after Newt Gingrich said that the Palestinians are an invented people, his Super PAC has received $5 million from Sheldon Adelson,..whose central cause is Israel. what the war might look like http://www.bushstole04.com/iran/us_iran_clash.htm what the lobby wants it will pay for and get Israel wants a war between the US and Iran, and sadly, all of America's politicians..are more interested in Israel's welfare than that of American kids. http://rt.com/usa/news/israel-iran-us-missile-011/ why they think your kids..should be blown to bloody bits fighting yet another of Israel's endless war.. against Israel's innocent and unoffending neighbors, http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/dangertopeace.php and let them live..with that decision come election time. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/offtowar.php Meanwhile,..the lesson of this article..it is Israel, not the United States,..that is creating all these wars. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/offtowarwithiran.php It is Israel dragging us all into wars of massive destruction, in the hopes that the dumb Christians..and dumb Muslims will kill each other off,.. lest we forget this is an info/spin war http://theintelhub.com/2012/01/17/wikipedia-plans-blackout-to-protest-anti-piracy-act/ selective facts deleting and banning opposing vieuws even a bit of friendly fire for sympathy http://theintelhub.com/2012/01/17/2-israeli-web-sites-crippled-as-cyberwar-escalates/ that the USA and Russia will annihilate each other in unmitigated nuclear fury,..and leave what remains of the Earth for Israel to rule over. http://dailybail.com/home/santorum-staffer-says-women-shouldnt-be-president-because-it.html Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 8:04:06 AM
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OUG I actually do read SOME of your links.
Some do not read your, or my posts. I as you do have my own views And do not agree with yours or Ajay's re world wide conspiracy's. But it is, in my view, a good cover for true and real conspiracy's. And that while such opinions float your boat, they in my view leave a taint on the real truth. Rather than an evil America, or an even more evil rich controlling class. Even an Israel controlled world, things I laugh at,a very real fear we are headed for one world government exists. Current inability to fix the middle east, Africa, world starvation, refugees, may be purposeful neglect to achieve that new world order. I think OUG you should consider this, some conspiracy's, without doubt, I speak about those lies, are started within the CIA Russian and Chinese Israel and Arab secrete services to blind us. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 11:25:29 AM
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Will their military actually block the Strait of Hormuz?
Will Israel bomb their nuclear facilities?
Why does an oil-rich country need atomic power?
Will a nuclear iran trigger a Sunni nation arms race?