Why did the multitude of good people on OLO who choose to contribute under a pseudonym [or feel that they have no choice as I do] choose their particular pseudonym or nom de plume?

I chose mine because I’m a passionate botanical and geological explorer and collector, having discovered a host of new species of plants.

Like that great explorer Ludwig Leichhardt, I have wandered widely into places that no one else has ventured….well, no botanist at least.

Pity though that the likable old drongo was such a terribly poor bushman that he repeatedly became lost and didn’t have a clue about bush tucker. Actually, he wasn’t old at all…only 35 when he carked it.

In that regard I am entirely different. Much older to start with… and totally tuned into the bush tucker in my part of the world.

http://www.davidreilly.com/australian_explorers/leichhardt/ludwig.htm
http://www.actfr.jcu.edu.au/idc/groups/public/documents/journal_article/jcudev_015624.pdf

So um, yair...why did you choose your particular spewdonym?

I chose Banjo for two reasons.

1. I am a lover of Australian poetry and ballards, Paterson in particular. I can even now recall at school. my imagination painting a vivid picture of the stories the ballards told. I also think that 'The Loaded Dog' by Lawson, is the funniest story ever writen. Even though much of his writings I found painted a depressing picture.
It saddens me to hear that little Australianana is taught to kids today. I loved it and Aus geography and exploration.

2. I also love Aus colonial music and Bluegrass music. I greatly admire the skills of good musicians (fiddlers and Banjo players)
Never had the opportunity to learn an instrument as parents financially poor and too busy working when older.

All in all Banjo seemed a lodical choice

For I am Sancho P. Anchovy, guerilla opinionista and freelance rationalist.

Simply, the pseudonym is in honour of the humble pelican.

Pelicans are exotic and bizarre looking birds with a grace and beauty all of their own. I like to use them as subjects in art both oils and charcoal.

I watched a documentary a few years ago about pelicans being victim to pollution in our waterways from plastic bags, fishing items like hooks, nets and nylon rope. It was very sad but a movement was formed by some dedicated people to rescue and save pelicans from these plights.

I chose mine out of my admiration for the writing of Winston Groom.

Having an interest in history, and within that area particularly military history, as it has impacted Australia, the first work of Groom's that I read was 'A Storm in Flanders'. Its an extremely readable and balanced account of the British experience on the Western Front from the beginning to the end of hostilities in the First World War. It is written by an American author for an American audience, with no presuppositions as to the existence of any prior knowledge of British military history or politics to that time.

If there is one thing that 'A Storm in Flanders' achieves, it is the conveying of the all-pervading sense that the whole war could have been lost on that front within an hour on any day during that entire conflict. It thus provides a much needed reality check for the many posing as experts who all too frequently dismiss overall British direction of that war as having been unimaginative or incompetent. Given the 87% casualty rate experienced by Australian forces in that war, its effect upon this nation has probably in many different ways been vastly underestimated. It offers a good base upon which to build a proper estimation.

Winston Groom also wrote 'Forrest Gump'.

I also greatly admire Tom Hanks as an actor. Tom Hanks BECOMES his character, and of course Tom Hanks played Forrest Gump in the film based on Groom's work. Tom completely disappears, and all you can see is Forrest Gump.

I loved the scene in the film where Forrest was happily telling his story to two people at the bus-stop about the shrimp business he had built with his old OC, double amputee 'Lootenunt Dayyun', and one stranger walked off disbelievingly. Turning to the other, Forrest says, disarmingly, "would y'all like to see hiyyus pictsha?", and opens a copy of Fortune 500. Priceless!

Sometimes it can be deeply satisfying to see people express disbelief iyyun what y'all teyyul theyyum.

Winston is an interesting name, too.

Regards,

Fo-rrest

Ludwig.
I chose my pseudonym for two reasons
• To remain anonymous in that I have a Local relatively high profile and don’t want ramifications for my uncommon perspectives. To right biased intellectual troglodytes (which I live amongst) I am unAustralian, a bleeding heart, a Greenie, anti-business, lefty liberal. None of which is strictly true.
• Secondly, ”Examinator” as an indication of my style i.e. I attempt to critically and objectively examine issues. The “ator” my tendency to defend against bias, bluster, self serving agendas or arrogance particularly when directed at others.

I believe that everyone is entitle to their views without personal attacks and being miss lead. Hence I tend to offer a wider Perspective or Context which tends to put issues into more reasoned frame. i.e. Discussion V Didactics.

But then again I’m human and I dislike those who don’t read what I write and distort it for their own agendas.

Sadly you can lead a person to truth but you can't make them accept it.

"Foxy," was a nickname given to me by
my father because I was born with
a mane of reddish-yellow hair.

So it's not because I'm clever, crafty
or cunning, my friend.
The name of the fox was assigned.
It's due to the colour of the mane
on my head,
And not the state of my mind.

Cheers.

Raised in a somewhat nomadic moderately left leaning family, in my teens I struck out and lived far from home on my own where the closest friends I had were all most definitely of the conservative, right leaning persuasion.

I found that neither side is any more right than the other, and in a world with exceedingly few constants, the only ones who you can generally call 'wrong' in an absolutist sense are the ones at the far ends of either spectrum - the kind of people who can't accept moderacy.
Seems to me that when you turn too far in either direction you're apt to go in circles, however if you want to get ahead... well, if you turn right then left you'll wind up travelling straight.
It held true then and does now, as far as I can tell.

I chose mine to reflect my hope that I might provide some countervailing views to the toxic extremists that seem to fill the net like septicaemia fills a body if a wound is allowed to fester. The implied opposition to the "Septic Tanks" is a nice bonus.

Interesting thread Ludwig thanks.
I have not one percent of your understanding but have wandered into the bush on my own for a lifetime taking photos of native orchids.
My surname is Bell, even my sisters got Belly at school, also dinga or ding dong.
Way back on my first PC a 486 I used Belly.
Only once changed that to mainstream unionist.
I was wrong to use Belly, some real idiots found me.
But it is on my work shirts and while it is unwise to unmask it is done now.
New users please consider not letting the world know who you are.

I chose mine pretty much at random.
Why have a pseudonym at all?

Well, because in the extraordinary culture of conformity in this lost outpost of a former British colony- - you find that you are embarrassing your family and friends if you talk, let alone write, anything about anything except sport.

To question the dominant culture's "expert" views on anything other than sport, is to be eccentric, mad, radical - etc.

More seriously, your job can be threatened, should you be seen as a "loose cannon".

It's probably bad enough in the hinterland, but it's bloody bad in Melbourne, where, (except for the Olumpics and grand slam tennis, (perhaps a little cricket), - you can talk only about FOOTBALL - and I mean, of course Australian Rules.

You know you're in Australia when the front page of a national daily newspapeer is headed with a story about a football player getting drunk and driving into a post. Now that's a safe topic to discuss without risking your job. But - you don't mention uranium.
Christina Macpherson www.antinuclear.net

I used to be involved in network marketing under the name of FNC which stood for 'Family Network Creation' I had so much bad luck, that I needed EFT which stands for Emotional Freedom Technique which happened to be a free self applied system to get your life in order.(which happened just nicely) For those of you in a position to help themselves
and others should see: http://apply-eft.tk and click on 'home'

Totally agree - great thread idea; fresh and non-combative (ATM anyway!)

Hi Ludwig,
My 'nom de plume' is pretty self explanatory - I am physically disabled and in a powered wheelchair much of the time due to Rheumatoid Arthritis and spinal damage.

I am also the primary carer of a 10yo boy who is also classified as disabled. He has a form of Autism as well as a significant auditory processing disorder.

Needless to say life for us is challenging - but we are as optimistic as we can be given the circumstances. I try to provide the out of school experiences any parent usually does, so my very active son (sorry Christina) plays sport - training and a game weekly... but we have gone against State reverence/fanaticism for NRL and support AFL..

Why weary? Do ya really have to ask... lol.

cheers.

Hi Ludwig,
Some interesting replies from the above posters.

My moniker somewhat resembles my real first name- they both start with C and end with A.
When I was in High School, my best friend's grandfather suffered from mild dementia and usually was unable to remember my name.
He was such a sweet man, I have fond memories of his kindness.
So I thought it would be a nice thought to use the name, Celivia, he often called me by when he couldn't remember my real name as my moniker on OLO

Mine came from a short term fling I had with smoking various foods in a wok, which involved several failed experiments and a home which smelled like a dead campfire. My fling coincided with my discovery of OLO.

With my rudimentary understanding of the online world at the time, it didn't occur to me that chainsmoker might not be all that brilliant a choice. It's grown on me over time though and taught me a lot about the assumptions some people make.

Steel was a nickname given to be by a supervisor of a company where I used to work. I actually hated it, but it is now one of my pseudonyms.
When I registered on this forum, the name Steel was taken, so I added "Mann" the the end. The supervisor often called me the "Man of Steel", so Steel Mann is a variation of Steel Man.

A mate of mine, 25 years my senior, would probably have been an Oz, champion, in a very minor area of endeavour, if serving for Oz in a world war had not got in the way, & stolen his prime years.

As he put it, he was a hasbeen before he started, after that war, but better a hasbeen, than a never was.

He took great pleasure in leading me, & after me, another young fellow, to the top of our sport.

He taught me that being a hasbeen is something to be proud of, & being mentored by a top bloke is as good as it gets.

Ludwig

I have to confess, I am a nerd. A total nerd-girrrrl. I love science fiction as much as I love science, especially chaos theory and qantum physics because these disciplines hold so much promise not just in understanding everything around us, but to develop new technologies that will completely revolutionise medicine, industry - life, the universe and everything.

So, fractal became fractelle.

:-)

I can't resist it, I've just gotta congratulate Banjo upon his reasons for choosing his OLO moniker in the second post to this thread.

He's brought back a flood of memories of my late Dad who passed away 18 years ago. He had an enormous repertoire of verse that he could recite (not just of Paterson's) from memory. Whilst if I heard any of it recited today I would probably recognise it instantly, I never developed the skill myself.

Probably around ten years before his passing, there came on the market a three volume limited edition of Paterson's complete works. It was, relative to the sort of money I had at the time, very expensive. I think he would have liked it. It is one of the greatest regrets of my life that I decided at the time not to buy it, on the rationalisation that he had virtually all of it in his head anyway. Sadly, it wasn't just the colt from Old Regret that had got away. By the time I had the money, the edition was no longer available.

Strangely enough, I never heard him recite 'The Pearl Diver'. I read that while later perusing a copy of the Complete Works belonging to a friend. Doubly regrettable.

DUM
dum

DA DUM
da dum

DA-DA-DA DUM DUM DUM DUM DUMM DUMMMM
da-da-da dum dum dum dum dumm dummmm

DA-DA DUM DUM DUM DAH DAH DAHHH DAHHHHH
da-da dum dum dum dah dah dahhh dahhhhh

[DAda]-[DAda] [DUMdum] [DUMdum] [DUMdum] [DAHdah] [DAHdah] [DAHHHdahhh] [DAHHHHHdahhhhh] .....

There must be something about banjos and deliverance.

Onya Banjo. Right choice for all the right reasons.

We have a saying in our family, if something is starting to appear a bit outlandish, or from way out of left field, that "I can hear banjos". Do you hear banjos here: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=7725#120702 It was posted the day before Ludwig had started this thread. Be careful.

Mine? :)

here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarp

then for those interested:

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0102.htm

His most famous words are:

"Eighty and six years have I served Him, and He never did me any injury: how then can I blaspheme my King and my Saviour?"

as he was about to be burned at the stake.

BANJO.. BP is one of my favorites also. Should be compulsory for all primary school children.

Saint Polycarp of Smugboazia!!

D’Oh…sorry Polycarp….just counldna resist that (:>)

It is actually a very interesting moniker.

Pity though that it has nothing to do with the great grey bloodwood of northern Australia; Eucalyptus polycarpa (or as lesser botanists would call it; Corymbia polycarpa)….which is at the centre of a very complex group of taxa, that have variously been described as new species or subspecies, some which have then been sunk back again into E. polycarpa….the whole group of which remains most unsatisfactorily taxonomically dealt with.

Sort of fits with the complex nature of Polycarp very nicely!

Oh but I do waffle on sometimes (:>/

Yep I’m a fan of ol’ AB Paterson as well.

He had a bit of a botanical bent…..

‘… "Murder! Bloody murder!" yelled the man from Ironbark.’

‘ Once a jolly swagman sat beside the billabong, under the shade of a coolibah tree…’

‘So he went; they found the horses by the big mimosa clump…’

‘…Where mountain ash and kurrajong grew wide…’

.

Um yes, this thread has proven to be very interesting indeed. Thanks to all contributors.

Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but, no but (apologies to little Britain)

I wanna know WHY Boaz changed his moniker to Polycarp.

Why? Why? Why?

Its not like he's fooling anyone.

As one who chooses to not use a pseudonym, I must say I've found reading this thread interesting.

However, like Fractelle I'm more intrigued about why Boazy changed his pseudonym from "BOAZ_David" to "Polycarp", than about some obscure Christian hero.

Does Boazycrap see himself as some kind of martyr? Personally, I think that burning him at the stake is probably an excessive reaction to his odious behaviour over the years - but perhaps he's had a vision of sorts and is simply fulfilling his destiny.

Fascinating.

Because I'm a member of the LNP.
http://www.liberalnationalparty.com

Ludwig,

I owe you one, you botanistische buschtukkerluffer! You have just saved me from putting my foot in it.

Here was I thinking that 'polycarp' meant 'many fish', or maybe 'many complaints', but of course from your botanical digression I now divine that it means 'many fruit'. I suppose from that we are to conclude that the original Polycarp was a Smyrna greengrocer in his secular, as opposed to ecclesiastical, role. No? Timely truth from the eucalypt!

Fractelle,

I had no idea chaos theory was so powerful. It can evidently be used to read minds! There I was thinking that Ireland was owed an apology for being left out of the discussion or something (anything qualifies these days, as long as you say 'Sorry'), and blow me down if you don't go and give the apology for me: "(apologies to little Britain)"! It's so obvious. Under the convention for naming island groups whereby the island containing England, Scotland and Wales is named 'Great Britain', that for the island of Ireland must be Lesser, or Little, Britain. Amazing!

How in the cosmos do you do it?

I can, however, see much stress for you in life if you keep asking 'Why, why, why' about every little thing. You have to learn to accept things the way they are. Did you ever see the film 'Babe'? If you did, just remember the advice of the cows.

Not that a truly enquiring mind is a bad thing.

Think outside the square, Fractelle. Perhaps nobody is trying to fool anybody. Perhaps Polycarp is recovering from a virus, or a Nigerian Central Bank physhing expedition, or fleeing from a cyberstalker. He has never complained. Why should he ever explain? Any explanation might undo all the good work already done to escape from such problems.

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

Always look on the bright side of life.

Que?

Ludwig, perhaps you could explain for me the Eucalyptus/Corymbia controversy? One of my favourite timbers is that of E. maculata (the spotted gum), which has now been reclassified as a subspecies of the lemon-scented gum which has also been taken right out of the Eucalyptus genus and become a Corymbia (C. Citriodora).
I've not yet heard a comprehensive reason for this.

Another one that puzzles me is the change in genus for Cedrella Toona (Mackay Cedar)into an Albizzia. There must be simple explanations for these things?

With pleasure Antiseptic. Thirteen years ago some bright spark of a botanist decided that the bloodwoods should be split off from the genus Eucalyptus. They formerly made up the subgenera Corymbia (true bloodwoods) and Blakearia (paper-fruited bloodwoods). The new genus Corymbia was accepted pretty well universally quite quickly, with just a few detractors.

Then the most eminent eucalypt botanist in Australia published the opposite view, placing Corymbia back in Eucalyptus! Lo and behold, this view was just completely not accepted. But the reason was political, not scientific.

The Australian botanical fraternity stuffed up badly over this issue. They accepted one view just because it was published, without waiting for the opposite view to be put even though they knew that the debate was far from over. So when the superior view was published, they (the national and state herbaria, universities and other institutes of botanical research) were all just too embarrassed to reverse the decision.

So now we have classic eucalypts like the spotted gum, lemon-scented gum and ghost gum in silly Corymbia, as they are actually smooth-barked bloodwoods!! However, they are still known as eucalypts! Yep, all species of Eucalyptus, Corymbia and Angophora are collectively known as eucalypts! Confusing?

The Mackay cedar used to be in the genus Albizia but was taken out some years ago and placed in Paraserianthes. I think that this was probably a reasonable move.

The baseline explanation for these changes is simple; there is a constant refining of evolutionary relationships and hence names of species and genera. However in the absence of hard and fast definitions of what constitutes a species or genus, and with some less than adequately rigorous science at times, not all changes are for the better.

I’m a ‘lumper’ at genus level. I think that many narrowly defined genera should be combined with their close relatives. But I’m a splitter at species level, believing that many currently recognised subspecies and varieties and many informal infraspecific taxa should be raised to species status.

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Botanistische Buschtukkerluffer! Now wouldn’t that be a great pseudonym!!?

Forrest Gumpp,
My collection of Australian verse is mostly in paperbacks but I received a Chrissy present from our kids a few years ago, a Coffee table size book tittled 'The Best of Banjo Paterson, and it contains 'The Pearl Diver'. Murray David Publishing Pty Ltd, 35 Borgnis St. Davidson NSW. First Published 2002.Reprinted 2004.ISBN 0-975242-806. If you are interested you may be able to obtain a copy, it is quite a nice book.

Banjo is not the only poet I like, but his name seems to come up first in any discussion. P J Hartigan, G H Gibson, Will Oglevie and, of course, Henry Lawson, great stuff. All Kids should be made to learn by heart My Country by Dorthy McKellar, Andys gone with cattle by Henry Lawson, Talmalangaloo by P J Hartigan and The Man From Snowy River.

There seems to be a decline in teaching our history and geography these days which is wrong in my view but I hope these names will live on. I too found it interesting as to why we chose our names. Cheers

According to the Mahabharata, the great Hindu epic, as the big battle between good and evil was about to begin, just following the Bhagavad-Gita, Yudhishthira, the eldest of the five benevolent Pandava-brothers, offered anyone who so wished to swap sides, and Yuyutsu, the half-brother of the 100 evil sons of the blind king Dhritarashtra, was the only one to defect at that last moment from the evil camp to the camp of the righteous (hence he also became the only survivor son of Dhritarashtra).

While the outer story of the Mahabharata is fascinating in itself (and extremely long!), there is in fact an inner story where each character represents a trend of the mind, so this war between good and evil actualy takes place within our own psyche.

Some would consider him a traitor, but I admire Yuyutsu who had the courage to be open and place Truth and Justice even above his loyalty to his own creed, hence the pseudonym I chose. I still have much to learn from Yuyutsu.

Further to Antiseptic….

Cedrela toona is an old name for the great red cedar tree that grows extensively in the rainforests of eastern Australia and right up through southern Asia. Its name changed to Toona australis in Australia years ago and then more recently to Toona ciliata when it was realised that the Australian trees were conspecific with the Asian ones.

It is not related to the Mackay cedar, being in an entirely different family.

The spotted gum; Eucalyptus (Corymbia) maculata is very closely related to the lemon-scented gum; E. citriodora. The species concepts have changed. E. maculata occurs in southern NSW. E. citriodora occurs in northern NSW and Qld. It has two subspecies. The southern subspecies doesn’t have lemon-scented leaves but is otherwise virtually identical to the northern subspecies with its exquisitely lemon-scented leaves.

The southern subspecies, which occurs extensively in southeast Queensland, used to be included within E. maculata. Then it was raised to species level; E. variegata, and now it is considered to be E. (C.) citriodora ssp variegata.

There don’t appear to be distinct cut-offs between these taxa, with some intergradation occurring between both E. citriodora ssp citriodora and ssp variegata where the two taxa come together at their southern and northern limits respectively, and between ssp variegata and E. maculata.

It is rather arbitrary as to whether E. maculata should be a species in its own right or a subspecies of E. citriodora. But I’m inclined to think that the current taxonomy is right, with it as a species and variegata as a subspecies.

A new species was pulled out of E. maculata some years ago; E. henryi, which entirely overlaps with E. citriodora ssp variegata in its natural distribution. I’m not familiar with any intergradation or hybridisation of these two taxa.

These species are now officially in the genus Corymbia. But after thirteen years I still steadfastly refuse to accept that. They are within the genus Eucalyptus as far as I’m concerned!

Well, thanks for that, Ludwig (I think). I tend to prefer to call spotties E. Maculata as well. It's interesting that I live in southern Qld and the C. Citriodoras don't have any lemon scent at all, whereas the ones grown west of the Divide are quite strongly scented. The issue you raised about hybridisation is a good one too, since I've come across any number of log specimens that arborists have identified as one species or another (not usually spotties, mind you), only to find the timber was not at all typical for the species, or that the arborists report was having two bob each way, suggesting possible hybrid combinations. Eucs do seem to cross-fertilize quite readily. The Mackay Cedar business is interesting too, since I've never heard it called anything other than cedrela until quite recently. I've not heard the latter generic name you used for it being used at all! Most people still call it an albizia. Given how it irritates the nose and throat like other albizias, I'm surprised to find it's not.

Anyway, thanks and sorry for hijacking the thread.

The things you can learn about posters on threads like this, and from the user posting histories!

Who would have thought:

that Yuyutsu was a defector from the dark side? Heretofore I was under the impression he/she may have been Japanese, and suffered from a speech impediment. Now I know better, and will be watching with interest to see whether he/she lives up to the connotations. (Oh, for the days when the use of the masculine imputed the feminine. So much easier when referring to the incognito.)

or that Antiseptic's seemingly off-topic post would elicit a reply that would tell me that my Toona australis down the wet end of my block was all along a Toona ciliata? (Digressing just for the moment into archaeo-botany, would Toona ciliata ever by any chance have been known anywhere as algum or almug? Anyone?)

or that Ludwig is fluent in German, not to mention remembering where to go to change his keyboard over to German characters?

or even more surprisingly, that Fractelle was a fan of Monty Python and John Cleese (aka Basil Fawlty, of Fawlty Towers)? Manuel (from Barcelona) comes across clear as a bell - "que". Then again, in the light of her confession to being a total nerd, perhaps that's not so surprising after all - many of the nerds in the world of the Ubuntu fora seem to be fans of Monty Python, including their Administrator, Matthew. (From an avatar of his: "That was unexpected!" "Nobody ever expects the Spanish Inquisition.")

All good stuff.

Thanks, Banjo, for the details re an edition that has 'The Pearl Diver' in it. Although I can remember the first verse, that's as far as I can go. Know the story line, of course.

An interesting thread, Ludwig. Thanks for starting it. Emaculate!

Forrest Gumpp

Too funny. I did consider using "quando" but thought the reference to Manuel somehow fitted better, given the range of tangents you were connecting.

And now I clearly need to be very, very careful as to the level of personal info I reveal here given the skill in both extrapolation and deduction you possess.

Cheers

No Forrest I don’t know of any Australia tree called algum or almug. But then there are a lot of obscure common names around or that have faded away with time. Any tree with scented wood could have been called algum by some old coot of a Forrester...woops; forester, even if the tree looks absolutely nothing like a juniper (which was probably the original algum).

Incidentally, an immaculate post…except for that word; emaculate! (:>)

For the Botanically inclined... and speaking of trees....

EUCALPYTUS PULCHELA is just one beauuuuutiful tree.. fine leaves.. whitish bark.. fast growing...very nice indeed. I've just planted about 10 of them....

I also love Angofora Castata..which has wonderful clusters of beautiful flowers.

BANJO... don't forget about the "Guilded youths..who's heads were flat, eyes were dull..and had no brains at all" :)

and..

A grunt was all reply he got; he shaved the bushman's chin,
Then made the water boiling hot and dipped the razor in.
He raised his hand, his brow grew black, he paused awhile to gloat,
Then slashed the red-hot razor-back across his victim's throat:
Upon the newly-shaven skin it made a livid mark -
No doubt it fairly took him in - the man from Ironbark.

Forest and Ludwig.. sorry, no fishy story :) Just a many sided man of history.

Green Grocer of Smyrna eh ? :)

It should though be noted that he was said to be a personal confident of the Apostle John..and hence is a source of much valuable tradition about the veracity of the Bible.

Martyr? hmm.. Tony Campolo was once asked at 65 "If you had your time again..what would u do different" to which he replied "RISK MORE"....

I continue to be utterly fascinated at the amazing potential for 'risk' and to live life in the so called fast lane... out of the loop.. State Library.. here we come :) I think it's called 'Speakers Forum'.. used to be Yarra Bank...but hey.....SouthBank might also be a good pozzy for a rant...er.. 'articulate exposition' on say...

"MulitCulturalism=Racism".. or..

"The PostModern theft of your mind" or..

"Capitalism and Communism are dead..where to now?" or

"Some Truths about Religions" or..(take a deep breath)

"One Nation, One Culture One Race" (but all One in Christ) :)

hmmm a quick word to ACA and TT and 7:30Report and "Resistance/Socialist Alternative (to ensure some action) in advance :)

Then...the video's on youtube.. woooo

I can't wait :)