The article is an interesting look at what should have happenned.

I have no doubt that if the holocaust had not happenned, neither would have Israel. The sense of nationalism would not have been created if the anti semitism had not been increased to such a level.

However, it did happen, and now Israel exists as a result.

It would be as easy to undo Israel as the holocaust.

Shouldnt the post be addressing the question:Should the Arabs leave Palestine?

Outrageous?
Then why are you asking whether the Jews should leave Israel?
The question has implicit in it the belief in the state of Israel as an established and accepted reality...Should the Jews leave ISRAEL ?If that is the case then why should the Jews have to leave what is acknowledged in the question...that there is a state of Israel? Who else should be entitled to live in a Jewish state. ?
Stupid question ill-thought out,I'd say.

*SIGN* I come back to OLO after a few months and I am hardly surprised to find that ignorance and dogma continue to thrive here. Back to work I guess!

Yuyutsu – “Israel claims to be a Jewish Democracy” You have that right! Its similar to the Democracy that was in Iran until it was overthrown in the 1980’s. Good example of Jewish democracy at work - http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966014.html

Israeli definition of a terrorist – A person or persons who fights back after being driven from their land and having their livelihoods and culture destroyed because of their ethic decent. An example of a terrorists is a cowardly Palestinian’s who fires rockets at Israel or attacks Israeli settlers who have taken their land without compensation. Another example are the cowardly Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto who in rose up against the Nazi in 1944. These Jews had their land and culture taken from them by the Nazi and are equally deserving of punishment like the Palestinians and should be considered terrorists.

The poor Nazi's must have suffered in the same way as the poor Israeli do today.

I guess all you people who support Israel’s attack on the Palestinians must also support the Nazi crushing of the Warsaw uprising?

Only Jews can emigrate to Israel (not that anybody else would want to live there) you have to proved that you have Jewish genetic component to get in! Whats the difference between white Australia policy and Jewish Israel policy? Why is white Australia so bad and Jewish Israel so good?

Only Jews can own land in Israel this a commonly know fact seeing that Jews live in the past and remember back hundreds of years ago when Jews where not allowed to own land in Europe! (Witches where also burnt at the stake during this time period.) Saying that the government owns the land is a technicality! Its like saying the Queen of England owns all the land in Australia. Technically correct but it would be impossible for the Queen to exercise her right to that land if she every wanted too

Yuyutsu quote “Israeli law discriminates against those who did not serve in the army.” LOL That’s great! Imagine if there was a similar law in Australia e.g. You must go to Church or its legal to discriminate against you! LOL

Can anybody on here take Yuyutsu seriously? What a hypocrite but then again Jewish and Israel culture is built on a backbone of hypocrisy which spans the millenniums.

Punter57 – “Are most of these anti-Israel posters anti-semetic in general..that's the question? Or just fantasists and socialist dreamers.? Hmmm. same thing really...”

Famous last words of a coward who cant win using facts so he reverts to worn out cliché’s and dogma! I don’t blame you punter57 for calling people who are anti-Israel racists! Its not like you can use facts to back up your stance! It puts you in the same league as people who say only racists would dare say that there is an alcohol, sexual abuse and petrol sniffing problem in the Aboriginal community.

Wake up and stop making a fool of yourself!

Shadow Minister and socratease I agree.

EasyTimes,

A terrorist is, as the name suggests, one who intentionally creates a feeling of terror among a civilian population. Was there any parallel in the Warsaw Ghetto?

"Only Jews can own land in Israel" - simply untrue. Many non-Jews own (and lease) land in Israel.

"Only Jews can emigrate to Israel" - not so: indeed Jews have a right for fast-track immigration to Israel, which is similar to the Australian "resumption of citizenship" clause that provides fast-track immigration for children of former Australians.

(I personally feel that it is now about time to start phasing out this clause)

About service in the Israeli army, you had the indecency to quote only my opening statement and place it out of context: what about the fact that non-Jews are allowed to volunteer, and then get the same privileges? what about the fact that conscription is a much greater evil then not-getting those privileges? thus discrimination is, in fact, IN FAVOUR of non-Jews!

(BTW, no section of the population in Australia is forced to go to church)

These are facts. If you ask instead for my personal opinion, I believe that it is about time for the whole concept of a "Jew" to fade out, as it already does in Israel, though very gradually, perhaps a bit too gradually for my own taste. The more secure Israelis are, the easier it is for them to let go of their "Jewishness", but treating Israelis as "Jews" can only push them, as a measure of protection, further into this definition. The Nazis did just that. Is this really what you also want?