Stop lying ,stop lying , stop lying [sorry but it’s a catchy chant , it just woke me up from my sleep,
maybe it will do the same for some of the rest of us

Democracy is about the voice of the individual acting as one to protect the individuals that make up the power behind democracy
,so why is a little Tibetan old man being yelled at by ‘Tibetans’ to stop lying?

Ok it’s a dumb question ,but it has the same answer as why is ‘petrol speculation by on line Ti-betten’ investors driving the price of oil and food through the roof

And the same answer as we saw when the world cheered on the Olympic flame that recently toured the world ,while Tibetan protesters protested ,but were soon overwhelmed by Chinese students defending their communist? Roots from the negative adverse affects of negative publicity

We have seen the weight of the Chinese day traders who nearly in their enthusiasm overwhelmed a emerging Chinese stock market [and rightly saw a tax put on their feeding frenzy [before it brought down china [and thus the world’s ]stock market [but by our greed is good philosophy ,we are failing to see the same ti-betting tiger consuming [overwhelming our resource markets [we thus need a day tax like china to stop these overwhelming and organised bettors on the dayly price of our foodstuff and resources of our enjoined survival , to save the world literally]

Stop lying resonates clearly the weight of the numbers that china needs to control [that indeed the world needs to control before un leased human nature destroys it all [any ALL our fearless/courage’s leader’s should [better] install a day trading tax immediately on all day trading on resources on our web based trading by these ‘’tibetan’ investors

Stop lying , stop lying , stop lying to yourselves , an unregulated day trader is destroying us for love of financial; gain

One under god,

Revelation? Nothing to do with China, methinks.

Revelation is an echo events occurring between the Romans and Jews. The two hundred thousand are “mounted” on horses. Moreover, thousands could be a pesher or a pneumonic, One has to be careful with the letter “s” its first century meaning. “S” being seen reproduction, not a distinct plural, wherein two hundred agreed with the thousand. My guess the large number is a pneumonic.

East refers to East of Euphrates [c. 70 CE]. Titus was in Emperor in charge of the military, while his father, Vespasian, was [a latent] Emperor in resident in Alexandria. East of the Euphrates, we have the Rome moving West; Babylon is just West of the Euphrates, and, is the target of the all those nasty angels with their bowls [phialēs]. Abaddōn {Armageddon] can refer “destruction” or the invaders being “unclean”, as a play on latrine.

China is to the West of Babylon {Rev. 18], nothing to do with the modern day West. The countries immediately East of the Euphrates are Turkey [Hittes], Syria, Iraq [Assyria} and Kuwait. The borders were a little different back then.

The Eschaton was forecast for the Year 4,000 on the Jewish calendar, 100 CE, Their guess was pretty accurate. There major wars in the 60s and 130s.

So,

1. China is not some evil empire in Revelation

2. Revelation is a micmic/echo of an historical event. The Roman crack-down on the Jews. Recall Augus and Tiberius were dead, and, the Annus Party now held have with Rome. Herods mob, we not really Jews in the first place and joined with the Iumæmens against Rome.

Kind regards.

And they could be coming here too Oliver.
Over fifteen years I managed to collect some 14 mentions in christian prophecy, or personal vision, from The Lord about an invader on Australian soil taking a piece of the country.
China has the only army large enough (200 million when its up and running) that can match the description mentioned in Revelation of 200 million soldiers (the "horses" description may only be a mystical one, their soldiers could as easily be mounted in trucks).
Revelation is also about events that generally havent happen yet.
Read 13:16-18 and 14:9-11 about the mark/microchip on either the right hand or forehead economy.
Its just starting to appear today, in 2008, in parts of the world as an alternative to cash and plastic cards.
We are not to take that mark/chip the Bible says (Revelation 14:9-11) but to resist the antichrist and his new money/ID mark.
Johns "Revelation vision" was sent to him when he was a prisoner on the Isle of Patmos asia minor.
He received it when he was on an island to the west of the Euphrates River mentioned in Revelation making the kings of the east army an army to the EAST of Patmos.
Mao said in 1963, I believe, that he could foot 200million soldiers at short notice.
It all fits that China be the great asian army called the kings from the east.

Gibo,

What would be China's motive? With cross-listings on stock exchanges, transnations and cross-country joint-ventures; what would be the point? I would be more worried about China not updating its trade practices and intellectual property laws.

As I state above China needs if it does become a superpower, there would be two suns in the sky, to defer th a Chinese expression, trade, rather than conflict will bring prosperity.

Recall the Missles of October? Neither, the US or Russia were mad enough to escalate to a nuclear war. Russia is largely Orthodox Christian or Athiest and China secularised, except for vague notions of spirits and ancestors; China knows if it were attack a major Western country, it will vaporised. Oliarchs wont be able to spend their money with every atom in their bodies split. They are not mad.

Oliver. The only vision I have of the future is in Johns Book of Revelation. There are a few prophecies around the web about the fall of the USA which might explain why such a huge asian army as the kings of the east can move outwards and across asia without any interference.
To bring about the fall of such a mighty nation as the USA is not impossible... just takes a great deal of stealth between Russia and China. The world of tommorrow is "pictured" as a world of great disasters and many wars and conflicts. Famines are everywhere, disease is spreading much greater (Luke 21), drought is all over Australia, petrol is as scarce as hens teeth...yet I believe many, many people are turning back, all over the world, to Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour. Massive global christian revival as God winds up history. If China is likely to do an outward march, it will because of the European antichrist spoken about in Revelation 13:-16-18; and all of the troubles he causes the world.
The Chinese wont want to take his "mark/microchip" on either the right hand or forehead so they will be at odds with him.
They will want to rule the earth... not some white skinned, blue eyed Adolf Hitler type out of the EU. Australia needs to begin building for the endtimes. The military is 3rd world. No one warns the populace. The churches are asleep. Yet the committed christians remain alert and constantly speak to each other about the final days. We're ready...I wish you John and Jane Doe's were too. See the mark of the beast 666, the signs that we are in the endtimes, Luke chapter 21.

ok you took the concept a bit further than i had intended
but armies can just as easilly be describing hoards as in very many

not nessesarilly organized from [or by ] china but mearly comming 'from the east' ,
the masses of day traders may possably need a mark of the beast[or a bank account number] to be trading

[i think most of the readers would be aware of the fiat currency scam thay has subverted true money [gold/silver coin-age] for the fiat banking paper notes

Remembering the early version of our money was a promise to pay in pounds weight in coin-age of sterling silver upon presentation at any commonwealth bank[that was removed with the intro of cupra-nickle coins [and with no promise to pay in sterling silver in 1966]by the neo [new] money changers [the 12 bankers who took over the fed reserve]

But interesting angle into revelations , from that of mt first hypothemous ; the chinese [communists] trading the value of resources into a hyper inflating cash price for the capita-lists