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Fisherman needs to evolve : Comments

By Daphne Haneman, published 31/1/2008

Each weekend, television news captures clichéd images of children and adults parading freshly killed, quivering fish in a gruesome fish pageant.

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Worthy of comment? Probably not.

"Each weekend, television news captures clichéd images of children and adults parading freshly killed, quivering fish in a gruesome fish pageant."
Maybe because it is so popular.....

"I’m totally turned off food from the sea, and fishing, for life."
You don't have to eat them to enjoy "setting steel in the jaw of a big fish". Catch and release is very popular now. Evolution?

"I thank the land for its abundant food. There is no need to empty the oceans."
No there is not. We will see the rise of aqua-culture which means we can enjoy seafood without emptying the oceans. Evolution?

Poorly thought out article designed to provoke reaction. Go back to your cross-stitch. I'm off fishing!
Posted by alzo, Thursday, 31 January 2008 10:08:34 AM
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A freelance journalist?

Have you nothing better to write as you are not gamefully employed?

Commercial fishing is the problem, dont bring in the amatuer weekend angler spending quality time with his kids to your silly article.

Overfishing is an issue, but unfortunately your culture and mine are not so reliant on seafood, but it is the staple diet of much of the people of the earth. nothing can be done about this in the next few generations at least.

I know what your trying to say but it is rediculous, unachievable, and ludicrous. People across the earth would lose jobs, income, and there would be food shortages and price rises across the earth due to the increased demand for alternate foods.

Line fishing has little or no effect on fish stocks and this is well known throughout the world, so it is dissapointing that you tried to bring this to your article, implying that this is part of the problem.

FYI i hate seafood, but i love to fish (catch and release) and fish at least once a week. By the way, fishing is just not about catching fish.

Do your research extensively before you are qualified to contribute on the issue.
Posted by Realist, Thursday, 31 January 2008 10:33:39 AM
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Daphne admits to eating no fish at all.

Perhaps there is some truth in the claim that fish is a good brain food.
Posted by Leigh, Thursday, 31 January 2008 10:34:16 AM
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lol,

good one leigh!
Posted by Realist, Thursday, 31 January 2008 11:02:24 AM
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Re “I thank the land for its abundant food.”

And man shall not live by bread alone.

Or “and he was a fisher of men.”

I am sure the article is more a bitch on about turtles swallowing plastic bags and I see no correlation between plastics ingestion and fishermen on the ends of piers.

Ultimately, I think Leigh has, in his inimitable manner, encapsulated the essense of what can be drawn from the dross of Daphne’s article.

As for Daphne herself -

well don’t sell your window “squeegee” dear, you are likely to need some cash income to maintain basic subsistence if this is the best you can do in terms of being a “freelance journalist”
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 31 January 2008 12:35:51 PM
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Yep, I agree. A waste of space.

I saw the title and thought aha, someone else is mystified by the concept of man pitting his wits against the mighty fish.

Clashing courageously with a massive competing intellect, that challenges preconceptions and exposes mental shortcomings.

Playing mindgames with the most sophisticated of opponents in a battle of subtle strategy and infinite finesse.

Putting his life on the line in a primaeval struggle, a true test of the survival of the fittest.

Sad. An opportunity missed.
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 31 January 2008 5:42:40 PM
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I think that targeting a person based upon their profession is a tactic best reserved for the last resort; otherwise, I personally believe that the greater of problems regarding this matter is that of the overfishing of various species.

I toured Scandinavia during 2006 - predominately Iceland and the Faeroe Islands - where the main rôle of society revolves solely around the fishing industry (for the records Canada and Alaska are too) and has done for centuries. While the best solution for a society should be the most prosperous and moral of choices, basing a decision due to its economic effects does little to think in a forward direction. They have long lived off the ocean but are respectful of that ocean; and it is with that the best solution – if possible – is to moderate the excess of fishing. I do agree that fishing down at the ol’ pier with the younglings is a mere ripple within the ocean – but that ripple can expand and become a typhoon instead. It is all relative.

As for double standards - oh what a dilemma that is! It is something that remains rife throughout society and maybe always will; some people are adjusted to watching a human die either in a fictitious movie or the most barbaric of sights without bother; yet when an animal may die there exists more sentiment that possible reserved for a human.

Regards, D.McLennan
Posted by D.McLennan, Thursday, 31 January 2008 5:46:53 PM
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Ya cant evolve on an empty stomach.

Braniacs unite in your empty head and empty stomachs into your evolutionary dead ends. Small mercies.

Author clearly doesnt understand the 'theory' of evolution and might starts with Darwin's 'Origin of the Species.'

Whilst at it, maybe the author can lament the evil, un-evolved lion for eating a gazelle.

Of course, we arent part of the natural scheme, we arent animals , we are ahem, civilised, evolved hoomun beans. Ah, life must look so good thru deluded rose coloured glasses.

OLO, please exercise some basic standards when selecting article contributions, because this one is about as amatuerish as it gets.
Posted by trade215, Thursday, 31 January 2008 6:38:27 PM
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Well Daphne, I am bruised by your rejection. But I wonder if you have ever tried hunting or even just one of its variants, fishing.

There’s something very primal about it and today’s socially aware persons take great pride in the fact that while holding Nature in very high regard, they also go to a lot of trouble to demonstrate that they are so much better than all the other omnivores out there. They simultaneously pretend to revere the rest of the biosphere, yet they are revolted by the things naturally that occur within that same system.

Daphne’s article says to me that she is the ultimate elitist, living in denial, better than all the other animals that kill and eat animals. Me, I rather enjoy being just another animal. Pretending to be a little god is a tad pretentious, non?
Posted by Rick, Thursday, 31 January 2008 8:46:35 PM
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But what would I eat? I don't consume land animals.

I'm having a bit of lend but one could equally argue against eating all animals why be selective about marine life. Of course overfishing is a problem as is the effect of pollution and plastic on marine life but this should be the issue not some attempt at maligning the weekend fisherman.

No mention of population sustainability as a relevant issue? This aspect keeps getting overlooked and shoved firmly under the carpet because it does not fit in with our "growth at all costs" mentality.

Just don't leave your plastic bags lying around they get stuck in my beak.
Posted by pelican, Thursday, 31 January 2008 8:48:41 PM
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It's good to see that those who poured scorn on Daphne's wishes are so enthusiastic. Perhaps they were all apprentice long-line fishermen, did their time, became journeymen, and are now master baiters.
Posted by Ponder, Thursday, 31 January 2008 9:47:34 PM
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Forgive those who oppose you Daphne for they know not what they do.

Ignore the emissions from the blow-hard windbags who remain joyful in their ignorance. Allow these windbags to continue gluttonising over our oceans' dwindling fish supplies.

And the fish treats now available - oh my. And what of the Atlantic salmon cutlets? Now that's a real luxury. Mind you, I trust all consumers are suffiently prudent to read the small print which advises "farmed product." Perhaps the windbags may then perform their own research to gain a basic knowledge of the contaminants they are ingesting from our "innovative" aquaculture industry:

http://www.biology.duke.edu/bio217/2005/ncm3/risks.htm

http://www.salmonfarmmonitor.org/intlnewsfebruary2004.shtml

Can we but hope that the windbags will spare a thought for those cultures who are totally dependent on marine life for their staple diet? Will they spare a thought for the people of the Arctic - the Greenland Inuits who are now force-fed the toxins from the fallout of the West's moral slide into industrial and economic recklessness:

http://www.peopleandplanet.net/doc.php?id=2145

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:_GnCmrFCe9gJ:www.bluevoice.org/sections/ocean/arctic.shtml+Inuits+greenland+health+impacts+POPs&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=20&gl=au&lr=lang_en

But then Daphne, why should these blowhard windbags give a cocky's backside about environmental inequalities when they continue to salivate over the fruits of the poisoned tree which the corporate and private eco vandals promote, protect and nurture?

http://www.iwcoffice.org/_documents/sci_com/SCRepFiles2004/SOCER2004.pdf
Posted by dickie, Sunday, 3 February 2008 9:07:05 PM
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ponder – your play on words is a little hackneyed but what would I expect from someone who has the enthusiasm have read a little but lacks the stamina to have read enough.

Dickie “Ignore the emissions from the blow-hard windbags who remain joyful in their ignorance. Allow these windbags to continue gluttonising over our oceans' dwindling fish supplies.”

oh what an angry person you are dickie

I bet you suffer deep feelings of inadequacy, I wonder if your logon is a clue to their origin?

Sad, as one who is reasonably well endowed (according to my lovers), I should find it hard to understand how your envy burns your soul but I have seen it all before and recognize the obvious symptoms in you.
Posted by Col Rouge, Sunday, 3 February 2008 9:55:35 PM
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