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What is a feminist? : Comments

By Cireena Simcox, published 25/1/2007

A feminist is not a woman with hairy armpits and a chip on her shoulder.

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Feminist is another brand of zeolot wallowing in the world of self serving ideological pretention. Like all ideolgues, having an outstanding ability to deny their exclusionary tendencies and a wounderful expanse of intellectual constructs and fuzzy notions to justify, justify, justify. They cant agree on what it is that defines them. There are 100s of definitions of the term. Which is dubious, at best.

When are we going to get past the inherent sexism of a movement that begins with its name and come up with something thats truely inclusive? Starting with a name that doesnt omit by inference. Sans the back peddling revisions of definition that include men in rhetoric only.

Oh yeah, and there was not any whinging nor whining in that article. Not at all. Not even a veiled, implied, hint.

No lies or misrepresentations either. Yep those suffragettes didnt burn or bomb any buildings way back when. Oh thats right it wasnt a night watchman who died in one of those torched buildings. That's right, an honourable legacy, devoid of the inherently malignant tendencies of the male sex. Ok, now lets quibble over semantics, that'll make it all good again.

Vapidly true to form, we are now, according to a revised definition/interpretation/extrapolation/fuzzy logic, ALL what the writer says we are. Bwahahahahahahahahahardly.

Marvel, at the complexcated complexity of wildly contrived, uhm, complexity. If hactivists cannot make it easy to understand then there is a MAJOR problem inherent to their position. Actually, l think you confuse complexity for confusion. They aint the same thing, they look similar tho.

How anyone can still be bothered deconstructing the littany of half truths, distortions and agenda driven qualificatins that underpin ideological puff pieces like that article is beyond me. They certainly have enormous energy and that deserves respect.

"a feminist is anyone who thinks that every person... has the right to follow their own dreams". ahahahahahahahahaha. So a mens rights extremist zeolot dreamer who advocates repealing womens right to vote is, according to this definition, a feminist. Ahahahahahahahahahaha. Can you see the credibility issues here, at all?
Posted by trade215, Friday, 26 January 2007 4:24:42 PM
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Trade215 formulated a great summary of many of the hysterically belligerent anti-feminsist responses to this article.

Quote: "Bwahahahahahahahahahardly...ahahahahahahahahaha...complexcated complexity".

I couldn't have put it better myself, old boy!
Posted by FrankGol, Friday, 26 January 2007 5:02:03 PM
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"They [feminists] are relatively safe protagonists." Then in another stroke of the keyboard soon after, a seriously angry ultimatum - "So go on, people. Fight your gender wars, vilify each other, stick on labels, generalise and be hateful to your heart's content. Just leave feminists out of it."

Go check it!

But hang on a minute, gender wars, vilification, sticking labels, generalising, being hateful? How can you leave feminists out of that? It was feminists who got that ball rolling in the first place.

And with respect to the labels of misogynists and feminists, the opposite of misogynist is misandrist and the opposite of feminist is masculinist. The first pair are haters, the second pair are sexist supremacists. There is a literary difference. In truth though they are interchangeable to some extent. All four are off-centre extremists suffering some "serious anger issues". Just go ask Leslie Cannold, who expresses this very phrase often lately.

Odd isn't it? Because she's one who seems happy to wear the label of feminist herself. There seems to be a lot of contradiction going on around this feminism business. Enough to make you think that there's something duplicitous about it.
Posted by Maximus, Friday, 26 January 2007 5:49:04 PM
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of well, frank, when in rome...

"hysterically belligerent"... feminists...

couldnt have put it better myself, old girl?

Its great how anyone who speaks about the failing of an ideological position is brand anti. Its like criticising Isreali policies, you're branded anti-semite, even isrealis who speak up get the tag.

This tendency really defines the nature of the ideological beast.

Sad, it is.
Posted by trade215, Saturday, 27 January 2007 10:18:23 AM
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White Feather Feminism

"Although the initial recruitment efforts of women were deemed patriotic, the realities of war and the often nasty manner in which this method was executed was eventually deemed, at the very least, in extremely poor taste. As the carnage was calculated, people took pains to distance themselves from any participation in recruitment efforts."

Perhaps some feminists are now trying to distance themselves from the more radical members of their organisation and the gender bias of feminist movement.
Posted by JamesH, Saturday, 27 January 2007 7:14:51 PM
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Country girl:

I can see youve had a rough time of it with discrimmination and all.

Did you have to go in the draft?
Posted by Garth, Saturday, 27 January 2007 8:25:04 PM
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