Oh, and for some more details about the Republican propaganda network that obviously has you brainwashed, you might like to rea atranscript of your thuggish mate O'Reilly giving someone a "fair" hearing:
http://www.politicalstrategy.org/archives/000953.php#953

Its even more disgusting if you watch it on Outfoxed...

And some more Pravda style behaviour from the Republican machine - linked to from my blog: http://biggav.blogspot.com/2005/03/republican-propaganda-machine-even.html

Unfortunately this steady encroachment on free speech and access to unbiased information has been done in such a subtle way that many people may have missed it. There is a good speech on this subject that you should read here:

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/journalism_under_fire.php

Maybe you'll wake up eventually...

biggav, You like calling opponents "idiot" and "fool". Well try this for size. I was about to call you a pathetic moron, but will hold back out of respect for On Line Opinion.

To recap: Sayeret's post was at 7.57am on March 8. Mine was at 12.39pm March 8. Yours was at 8.12pm March 8. You started off on the "Australia at war" question, then followed on about the gulags without indicating that you were replying to 2 different people. Try and get it right in future.

For your information I do sleep well, hoping that our Security organisations are doing their job. I do love my country, that's why I take the trouble to argue with people like you. I don't get all my information from Bill O'Reilly, I read and view widely. And O'Reilly DOES give everyone a fair go. Have you ever actually watched him, without relying on the biased views of disgruntled politicians and commentators?

You have this twisted idea that America is to blame for all the world's ills [even the Oil for Food scandal which was entirely the fault of the corrupt Europeans and the UN].

You also claim that America is a Fascist state.. It's a strange Fascist state which allows a conniving liar like Michael Moore to spread his twisted propaganda without being locked up in a concentration camp.. A Fascist state would hardly allow other political parties to exist, let alone fight in free elections. Think of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy COMPARE and maybe you'll see through that fog in your head how stupid your claims are.

YOU ARE SEEING FASCISTS UNDER THE BED. Your credibility is NIL.

Al you don't know what you are talking about (as usual).

I know who I was replying to - you obviously can't read.

To repeat what the conversation, which should be clear to anyone who reads the earlier posts, my statement was :

"For the guy who thinks we are in a state of war - you are clearly mistaken - Australia hasn't declared war on anyone, and nor has anyone declared war on us. You really need to calm down before making such rash, and obviously untrue, statements."

Sayeret (Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:55:21 AM), had earlier said: "We are at war. It's about time you woke up."

Clearly, as you didn't claim that we were at war, and Sayaret did claim this, I was replying to Sayaret - any other conclusion is simply insane.

You are just trying to distract attention from my entirely valid criticism of the worst ever US president and his fascist / neo-con regime.

Pumping out more Fox News Pravda style propaganda only diminishes what little remaining credibility you have.

The american invasion and occupation of Iraq is both illegal and a war crime. Bush should be tried for his acts in the International Criminal Court. He should also be condemned by the american people for his systematic looting of their national treasury and his destruction of the US dollar.

If you knew anything at all about what is going on in world energy markets you would acknowledge that this war of aggression is all about the US stealing the middle east's oil - nothing more.

As for the Iraq "Oil for food scandal", you obviously didn't read the article I posted. You can find more information here (though no doubt you'll ignore it as it doesn't fit in with your blinkered view of reality).

"Where has Iraq’s money gone?"
http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2005/02/08/fraud-and-corruption-/#more-917

"U.S. ignored oil smuggling"
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/2005/01/002823.html

Again - watch the news - oil demand has exceeded the supply available, and that supply is about to enter long term decline.

The US has decided that armed theft is preferable to reorganising their economy to deal with less available oil. When the last major oil shock occured Americans and Europeans both used about the same amount of oil per head. Since then European use per capita has halved and American use has doubled. America should learn from the Europeans instead of pursuing their destructive (and ultimately futile) course of action...

biggav, You say I have a blinkered view of reality. I suppose you would have us believe you are objective in your comments?

Have you yet read David Kay's report to Congress on Oct. 2, 2003? Have you read http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature/html on the Oil For Food scandal, and the role of Benon Sevan and the UN?
Have you actually watched Bill O'Reilly and other Fox News commentators say for one week to see for yourself that they actually give all points of view a fair go? Try Optus channel 41.

You persist in this nonsense that America is only there to steal Iraq's oil. If this were true, all of America's enemies would be plastering it all over the TV, as they do with anything which they think can hurt the U.S.

You also persist in this absolute rubbish that America is a Fascist state. I ask you again,, how is it that a "Fascist" government would allow citizens to attack and insult the President and his family at will? Why is Michael Moore allowed to run free after what he has said about George W.Bush and his family?Why isn't he in a jail or concentration camp/gulag which totalitarian regimes have in store for dissident citizens? How come there are free elections and rival political parties? They were not allowed in Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany or in the "Red Fascism" of Soviet Russia. Your claims are absolute bull, and everyone knows it.

Al,

Read all my previous posts - its pointless repeating all the arguments I've made that the US is now a fascist state and that Fox "News" is the modern equivalent of the Soviet's Pravda propaganda apparatus, as you simply ignore all the detailed arguments (and communism is fundamentally different to fascism by the way, go and study some basic political theory before embarrassing yourself further) - these facts should be clear to anyone with an open mind who cares to observe the reality of the situation, whether they be right-wingers like myself, or left wingers like Mike Moore (who you seem to have a weird obsession with - no one else bought him up).

I will repeat that I have watched Fox "News" far too often for my liking - its undeniable that its a propaganda channel - go and do some research - I suggest you start here (quoting my previous advice to you) :

"For those who aren't familiar with "Fox News", I highly recommend the documentary "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War On Journalism" (http://www.outfoxed.org/). It is also well worth reading "Into The Buzzsaw" (http://www.freedomofthepress.net/intothebuzzsaw.htm) and watching "Orwell Rolled In His Grave" (
http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/05/03/int05012.html) for an examination of how this privatised propaganda network (run by Republican politician Roger Ailes) was constructed."

As for the Kaye report, its a complete fabrication - as was proved by the absence of any WMDs in Iraq. The invasion was based on lies.

The invasion was and is about oil - the US will never leave Iraq until the oil rus out (even though the majority of the Iraqi population fervently wish they would go - even those who voted in the "elections").

The oil motive is thoroughly documented and understood by everyone who pays attention to international affairs. Here's some examples of what is repeated by almost all analyses of what has happened:
http://www.energybulletin.net/4834.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ENG408A.html
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=7479
http://www.museletter.com/archive/144.html
http://mosnews.com/news/2005/03/21/shebarsh.shtml

I look forward to the day Bush and his cronies are tried by the international court for war crimes.