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The sun dominates climate change : Comments

By Tim Ball and Tom Harris, published 7/3/2019

Why are the public generally unaware of the important research that connects variations in the output of the Sun with climate change?

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Hasbeen

What a facile comment, no sun and no greenhouse gases equals no life on Earth.

Climate has basically been in equilibrium while man has been in existence; the use of fossil fuels have changed that equilibrium. Pre-Industrial levels CO2 were around 270 ppm, now they are spiking over 410 ppm.

The article purports to present science, where are the references to support the views expressed in the article.

Previously you stated .."There was Japanese research about 3 years ago that found that any increase in atmospheric CO2 was matched by a reduction in atmospheric water vapour."

Can you provide a reference, my guess it has come from a denier blog spot which has misrepresented the science. I'll maintain my skepticism until your able to provide the reference.

http://youtu.be/8nrvrkVBt24
Posted by ant, Friday, 8 March 2019 12:30:15 PM
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LEGO

Your comprehension is poor regarding climate change science, so your attempt is worthless.

Patrick Moore works as a lobbyist, he is not a climate scientist. He is also a member of a very conservative think tank. He is critical of climate science from the sidelines; but, as with denier groups, he has no data to back his case.
Above I wrote about how he tried to delve into coral reefs, his opinion was shot down by scientists working in the field. A reference with quotes from various scientists was provided. His opinion here would not pass the Criteria set by Seth Miller, above.

Various proxies, and ice cores taken provide a background of evidence taken from the field, supporting anthropogenic climate change.

For some matters denier points of view rely on conspiracy theories. The proxies that Pages 2 K consortium have collected support the view that the Medieval Era was not as warm as current global temperature. The Pages 2 K consortium provides access to the proxies they have used to create their conclusions … evidence based. The data supports Dr Mann's hockey stick concept, other studies have also done so. Dr Mann's hockey stick has been investigated a number of times, and found to be up held. Conspiratorial theories are promoted; yet, some information used by deniers has been tampered with.

In relation to the so called "climate gate", emails were stolen. Through the noise created, investigations were held, including by the British Parliament. Fraud was not found by any of the investigations .. conspiracy theory suggests otherwise.
Try putting conspiracy theories through the Criteria, LEGO.

The Criteria that Seth Miller provides, which was formulated to provide strong science shows that deniers do not have much to support their views.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/science/2019/03/11/coal-fired-power-plants/
Do deniers have evidence to show otherwise?
Posted by ant, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 7:47:07 AM
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Sorry wrong article.
Posted by ant, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 7:51:03 AM
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Latest IPCC prediction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICE6l-5qTYE

IPPC notable makes future weather predictions and blasts HIGW denier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF_Krra2J3k
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 9:26:17 AM
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'Global atmospheric CO2 levels have gone from under 320 ppm in the sixties to well over 400 ppm today, the highest in 3 to 5 million years.'

yeah Steelie and the martians ruled then. Absolute nonsense and I am sure you don't blush parroting such fantasy.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 10:32:40 AM
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coal is actually helping to reduce carbon omissions,,because without it, countries with
huge populations such as China and India would simply cut down the trees and
use wood for cooking and warmth.

Burning wood produces double the amount of carbon that burning coal does.
So coal is a saviour in halving carbon rates. It is the big world population causing much of the environmental stresses on the earth.
Posted by CHERFUL, Thursday, 14 March 2019 10:48:19 PM
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