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Brave new post-identity world of no more excuses : Comments

By Gary Johns, published 7/12/2016

Now, after many years of struggle, those of identity face their final challenge: the same challenge faced by straight white males.

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WTF?
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 8:21:42 AM
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Gary: you hafe got dis propaganda stuff nailed mein Herr! Jawohl!?

Und ven ve rise vonce more to power ve vill need zeze skills!

Goebbels vood be proud!

Ve salute you! Sieg heil!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 7 December 2016 10:14:40 AM
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I am sure if you did a survey of the abc you will find that the 'gay'sommunity, the muslim community and feminist are well over represented. They tell us that muslims in this country are about 1% of population. Why do the abc have them at least 3 times a week on the drum etc. Yes the deplorables are waking up.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 10:22:02 AM
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The presumption of those who ‘identify’ by their sexual orientation is that human beings are attracted to each other out of a desire for sex. They assume that what they feel to be their ‘orientation’ is indeed based upon sexual needs whereas it is really based upon emotional needs.

Human beings are attracted to others for many reasons but sex is not one of them. Sexual feelings need to be satisfied but we are all capable of satisfying our own needs so there must be some other driving force that leads us to have sexual relationships.

People are most often attracted to others because of characteristics they see in that person that they desire for themselves. For some reason those characteristics have not been allowed to flourish in their own personality and so they seek them in others. When they see them they want them so badly that they reach out and try and take hold of them. They want to get as close to those characteristics as physically possible and sex is an attempt to do that. The ‘orientation’ is to those characteristics and not to the sexual behaviour itself.

It is unhelpful to describe this as ‘sexual orientation’ because sexual behaviour will never satisfy the need to appropriate those characteristics for one’s self. You can rationalise such sexual behaviour and try and form groups that help you support your rationalisation but ultimately this is never going to work
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 11:36:36 AM
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I'm pleased to be living in my world of reality Phanto, and not yours.
If I spy a voluptuous chick in my travels, there ain't much thinking going on, it's all automatic!
And if she can actually communicate on a level of discourse outside of sex, that's a bonus!
Maybe I missed your point.
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 1:09:53 PM
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DiverDan:

Well aren't you the man then! So you just have sex with her there and then on the spot. You do not think about it. Consent is irrelevant, imprisonment for rape does not enter your head. You just do it.

I don't believe you. Surely you are kidding. Of course you think about it but the main aim of your post is to tell us what a virile primitive man you are - all instinct and passion.

Who are you trying to convince?
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 1:42:29 PM
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Where do you get your ideas from Phanto?
It would be some sort of dead love affair, without the desire to have sex with your new partner.
Of course, over time, the flames of love diminish in many instances, leaving two people to coexist in a state of undeclared war.
Maybe it is that state which drives your conclusion, sexual attraction is secondary to a need in some people, for emotional security in their partner.
Obviously over time also, hormone levels decrease in proportion to the need for sex.

So explain what point you are trying to make.
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 5:14:17 PM
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DiverDan:

"So explain what point you are trying to make."

Given you initial response I think you would not understand.
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 6:32:32 PM
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Runner,

The reason The Drum has some Muslim spokespersons on a few times a week is it is a topical show...you might not have noticed but a lot of the current political rhetoric is targeting Muslims despite their minimal representation in Australian society.

However, I guess you are not complaining about the IPA and Sydney Institute spokespeople on 4-5 times a week moaning about Sect 18C and refugees assaulting our borders and Sharia law and endless other 'dog whistles"!
Posted by Peter King, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 9:59:18 AM
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