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Thinking Christians spurn hammy creationism : Comments

By Chris Middleton, published 19/2/2014

It is important that a minority view within Christianity is not allowed to frame a false dichotomy between religion and science.

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Yuyutsu, I don’t have a lifestyle that I have to justify to anyone nor do you. You don’t live in a communist country and other members desires are not realities. If you spend your life worrying about what might happen to you then you will have wasted your life. If the communists overrun the country I would think not being able to indulge in public religious practices would be the least of your problems. North Koreans are more concerned about where their next meal is coming from. If some regime were to take over then they would have already made their decision about religion and are unlikely to want to sit down and argue with you in case they may be wrong.

If communists take over it will not be because religious people were not persuasive enough about their ‘beliefs’ since those beliefs are already discounted as irrelevant by communists. If a regime resorts to violence to overrun another country then they are hardly the type of people who will sit down and debate the ‘truths’ of religion.
Posted by phanto, Sunday, 23 February 2014 1:46:39 PM
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one would of thought that centuries of god denying would result in something a little more intelligent than the big bang. The writer of Proverbs was spot on when he wrote that a fool says in his heart their is no god. Many of the above posters demonstrate it clearly.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 23 February 2014 2:40:25 PM
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Runner – it sounds rather irrational behaviour to follow the author of the book of Proverbs who is so insecure that he has to ridicule someone by calling them a fool just because they have a different opinion to the one he holds.
Posted by phanto, Sunday, 23 February 2014 4:41:03 PM
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It is futile to engage with PHANTOES who spoutS these IRrationalisations. Bringing the rules of logic and reason into a conversation..as if the phantos was also using the same rules is a complete waste of time.
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 23 February 2014 5:23:25 PM
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'Runner – it sounds rather irrational behaviour to follow the author of the book of Proverbs who is so insecure that he has to ridicule someone by calling them a fool just because they have a different opinion to the one he holds.

Phanto

denying the obvious ( your Creator) is a little more than an opinion especially when you replace it with something so irrational.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 23 February 2014 6:32:46 PM
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please refute/IF YOU THINK YOU KNOW EVOLUTION..

Evaluating the Human-Chimp DNA Myth-
-New Research Data..by Jeffrey Tomkins,Ph.D. *

A recent presentation..at the 2011 Creation Biology Society..(CBS) meetings has stirred the pot..once again on the human-chimp DNA similarity issue among creationists,.intelligent design proponents, and some evolutionists.1

It was reported that a query..of 40,000 chimp genomic DNA sequences against..the most recent assembly..LOL..of the human genome provided an average similarity estimate..of 97 to 98 percent.2

Evolutionists frequently cite..such percentages..as an indication of common ancestry,..*..but the ICR life sciences team has been examining the question of human-chimp genetic similarity—and what we’ve discovered..raises significant challenges..to the standard claims.3

For example,..a report in 2007 showed that 23 percent
of the human genome..shares no immediate genetic ancestry*..with chimpanzees,..mankind’s supposed closest living relative.4

A more recent study..showed extreme dissimilarity...(> 30 percent) between human and chimp Y chromosome DNA sequence.5..*Furthermore, when data..are provided in research papers..that allow the determination of DNA sequence gaps..in alignments,..please note*..actual overall identities are 70 to 87 percent.

To help clarify actual data..associated with the ongoing controversy, the Institute..for Creation Research has become actively involved in human-chimp DNA similarity research...Based on the CBS report, the ICR life sciences team obtained..the same 40,000 chimp DNA sequences—individual random fragments (about 735 bases each) from the chimpanzee genome sequencing project.

For an initial test..of the chimp data,..we generated 1,600 DNA alignments with the human genome..using the software BLASTN with default parameters.

In contrast to the results presented at the CBS meeting, we only obtained a genome-wide sequence identity of 89 percent. The CBS report did not indicate which BLASTN parameters were used...Perhaps those parameters were more stringent and only produced alignments of extremely high similarity.

edited/..

not that you..faithful..in science/spin care..

but..2..b..ctd
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 7:34:38 AM
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