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By Tanveer Ahmed, published 10/10/2005

Tanveer Ahmed argues there is no crisis in mental health in Australia.

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Duck....its about time you spoke some sense :) yes.. I agree with you for a change....

The alienation, is not so much a result of capitalism, but of capitulation to secularism.

You mention quite rightly that the role of 'religion' and extended family have been compromised and even sent to the proverbial social dog house, by and large by socialist forces who believed these parts of life could be replaced by the 'State'... and what a dismal failure that idea was and continues to be.

The french have some queer atittudes to many things, but their stubbornness in retaining their 'village/small holding' approach to life is to be commended, even if in todays world it makes little economic and sustainable sense.

The mental health issues and their frequency Duck, is something you should be onto like a Pitbull on a Chiwawa as being clear evidence of ourselves experiencing the social decay manifested by the Cape York tribal group.

To me, it's as clear as if it was written in a clear blue sky in huge letters by a skywriting plane.

You did not appear to suggest any solution ? Is this a confession of only being able to observe the syptom, but not recommend medication for the illness ?

I recommend one, 'Repentance and Faith in Jesus Christ as Lord'......
You would be amazed at the social consequences. In Whales in one year, 100,000 people were added to the Church, Pubs went out of business, Mine Pit donkeys would not work because they couldn't understand the lack of abuse on them...

Society is transformed when its citizens are renewed from within.
Families will be renewed, marraiges will be revitalized, relationships will be more honest, and it will last as long as individuals continue to honor Christ as Lord of their own hearts.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:21:31 AM
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'In Whales in one year..'

Hee hee, sorry to make fun of a spelling slipup Boaz, but you have to admit, that was a pretty funny mistake.
Posted by spendocrat, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:25:00 AM
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A very good article, Tanveer, but should more attention be paid to the following as being a contributing factor to mental illness.

Preservatives, additives, and chemicals in food. The use of herbicides, hormones, pesticides and enhancers in food production. The effects of processed, fast foods and saturated fats. Air and sound pollution. The growing electromagnetic radiation that is prevalent in our societies. The oppressive nature of cities and their electromagnetic polluted environments.

An interesting survey was conducted in the USA a few years back, found that people who live under aircraft flight paths, had a much larger incidence of brain tumor. The closer they were to an airport, the more prevalent were the effects and increased mental disorders. A similar survey in Germany found that those that lived beside autobahns, suffered more depression than those living away from major traffic.

An airliner drops tonnes of unused fuel on what they fly over every flight, when you consider that there are hundreds of flights using the same paths over cities daily, the populance is constantly ingesting large amounts of aviation fuel, along with unburnt vehicle emmisions .

I understand the faith the the psych industry has in medication, but medication is just a suppressor of the problem, not a removal of the cause. It would be interesting to determine the number of people that commit crimes, in particular, violence whilst using psychotropic drugs.
Posted by The alchemist, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 1:46:58 PM
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Where would I be without your constant attention to my blunders spendo :)
thanx.. keep it up and I'll be a better speller and person.
Cheers
Posted by BOAZ_David, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 2:14:05 PM
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Thanks Boaz - I wish I could return the compliment, but as soon as you start preaching about biblical solutions to contemporary problems, you lose me and the rest of the unbelievers.

The problem isn't secularism, rather it's the lack of meaning inherent in the post-Enlightenment lifestyle and the simultaneous rise of global capitalism as the dominant paradigm. It's a bit ironic that the Reformation created the historical conditions for both the development of Protestantism and the Enlightenment. Do yourself a favour and read some Weber instead of the Scriptures. There you might discover the essential role that Protestantism played in converting mercantilism into capitalism.

Despite the fervent wishes of Christians, Muslims and other religious people who would like to turn back the clock, the ascendancy of religion ended forever with the Enlightenment. No, I'm not proposing any glib solutions to contemporary problems of alienation and anomie, but that's more honest than proposing that all will be hunky-dory if only everybody finds Jesus, or we re-establish the Caliphate, or whatever fairytale utopia your given religion demands.

I think we need to clearly identify the problems and their causes, before we have a 'prayer' of devising the solutions.
Posted by mahatma duck, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:14:16 AM
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The inferior practice of psychiatry in Mental Health servicing throughout Australia evokes more calamity onto our society, then those it claims to treat.

I want to see a Royal Commission into the profession of "psychiatry". Yes, and that's on top of the present Senate’s Mental Health enquiry.

Frankly, I think we would be safer to ban the practice of "psychiatry" in Mental Health servicing, throughout Australia, because I believe the majority of psychiatrists, who work in Australia, have sold Australians out.

I find the severity of problems we have, in allocating the right type of Mental Health services, stems from the "overlap with socio-economics and the boundary between it and the social sciences".

To be clear, Mental Health relies on an ominous platform set upon organised arctic misdoings and is responsible for the recumbent perplexity that is a disadvantage to clients.

I believe the problems in Mental Health can be sourced in the capitalistic tendencies that psychiatrist experience from their own addiction to benefits they themselves get out of drugs.

Psychiatrists need more clients to legitimise their rigid existence. Without the "Mentally ill", they would be out of this kind of lucrative and presently sightless profession.

This is because in practice, psychiatrists are more prone to imposing fanciful deceptiveness onto another, then their accused patients.

Professionally, I believe psychiatrists proceed like a prearranged plague out of control and are in need of disciplinary restraint. This occurs because psychiatrists have too much power, too few regulated protections to safeguard transparency, to clients.

I find the "under-resourced" Nurses and general Mental Health helping professionals are doing their best to cope with the increased degree of social ill, in Australia.

I also agree with Kay and others for their sanity. “I think that the crisis has a lot to do with people making psychiatric diagnoses who are not sufficiently qualified or experienced”.

That Mental Health problems are overloaded by the automation of the psychiatrists miscarried diagnoses. This is because, unlike other professionals, psychiatrists are able to legally lean on the indolent surrogate substitution of care, through the systematic allocation, of too many drugs.
Posted by miacat, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 2:06:07 PM
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