...All too true! Nature is very rigid and at times brutal, with her laws.

...And it shows exemplary dedication of a person, and of a society generally, that nurtures and protects their sick and elderly, against the inevitability of Natures law of extinction.

i..noted/your article..cause..of..the one..reply
many-people..dont..bother reading..things..like this..

till..there is..some interest

this is..usually..when you..join-in..
the conversation..or..do..update..

but you..may be new.to the olo process..
so..i will..go over ..my responses..

the heading..isnt descriptive..of..the first line..
[nor..most of..the rest..of..the article..]

in fact..i almost gave-up..reading..before/this point..[see quote]..wondering who..is writing such..A....poor me..info-taintment

and/then..saw your face..
then..had to..read on

then..i..found..this

<<..Judaism..recognizes..*the particular relationship
between..*parent and child..by allowing..a longer mourning period.>>

that..i find interesting..anymore info?
a GRACE-period?

<<..While..the generally..accepted time...is 30 days.>>

generally/accepted..by who..?
[i..never knew]

generally/known..to few?
too few?

is..it..Knesset/law..or gods/law?
i didnt..note it..in..the bible..is it in..the torah?

where?

or is it..taught.in school..or temple
[see..the parent/children..thing..is the same
as..god and,..his created/creation..kind...of thing

thus in..gods-home
[Israel;..god must be..in*..there somewhere

or/else..he was chased out..

to..WHERE?
[yet other..peace-filled hearts]

<<..an adult child..>>..priest/rabbi?

<<is notably expected..to honor..their parent's memory..>>

gods memory..[of an..idea*/creation]
except..god aint..*dead*..[even dead..aint dead]
[but..lets/take..that..as read.]

<<..by publicly..reciting..a prayer,
known as..the Mourners'-Kaddish,..for..11 months.>>

May..His..great name....[i_am*,]..be exalted
and..sanctified..is G*d*s..great-name.[i*am]

a Yitgaddal veyitqaddash shmeh rabba

2 in..the world..which..*He created..according..to His will! 3 May He establish..*His peace-full/loving kingdom..again..[in..the hearts of men.]

4 and may His..[gifted promise..of ever present eternalliving loving being..bring atonement/salvation..let..]..salvation blossom and His anointed..[inspirit]..be bought near.

5 during your lifetime..and during your days
6 and..during the lifetimes..of all the House of Israel,

<<a term..that traditionally..*implies..the reward/
*for piety,..good deeds,.*and charitable work...>

NOT..eternal_war?

7 speedily..and very soon!

And say, Amen.

AHH..men

The next ..two lines..are recited
by..the congregation..and then..the
leader:..[who shall..serve..you]

8 May His..great name..[i*am]..that../i\am..is being..
with-in..every living-being..]..[be]..

simply by being..the being..god
willed..its..being..into being]..be blessed..

9 for ever,..and in-to..all eternity!

10 Blessed..and praised,..glorified..and exalted,
simply..by loving other.

11 extolled..and honoured,..adored and lauded
12 be the..PRESENT/presence*..of the Holy One,..[bblessed be He,,by..we],

13 above and beyond..all the blessings,
14 hymns, praises and consolations
creed/rite/ritual/protestations

15 that are uttered..into..his words..thus..into the world!

by blessings upon..him..ye bring blessing..upon..you
by blessing..of other begets..the blessing upon him..for who..the blessing..is is over due

by simply blessing..thy brother
ye bring blessings..upon all of we

ME
WE

in..his mirror..image..are we created
by..our form..is his form..fully filled

And so..it is we..
who say,..Amen.

AHHHH..men

The half..kaddish/divisions/dire-risions..ends here...[hear
its pollite..not to talk..in tongues..before guests.

Here..the.."complete kaddish"..includes:

16 May..the prayers..works..and..supplications

17 of..all Israel
the reward*..for piety,..good deeds,..and..charitable work...>>

18 be accepted..by..OUR..Father[of all/living]....who is to..gather..us..all..in Heaven;s..eternal

And say,..Ahh..men.
[do..ye wish..to try living..without me..yet again]

Here..the.."kaddish/of..the rabbis"
(including..the kaddish..after..a siyum)..includes:

19 To Israel,..to the Rabbis..and..their disciples
20 to the..disciples..of their disciples,
21 and..to all..those who engage..in..the study
of..the Torah..and not of..the laws of war*

YOU..who....have adopted..as..a state-symbol
the menorah..(candlebrum).

<<..which is explained..in the Tenach..
(on..the occasion of..a previous return..to the Holy Land).

as,WRITTEN

*"not..with..*armed force*..and..not with power,*..
but..*in My spirit..says..the..Lord of Hosts.">>

says..the host*..of lords

see..how we/can..hold..two
incorrect ideas..[see previous post]
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15341

22 in this..[holy]z place
or..in any*..other place,

23 may*..there come..abundant peace,
24 grace,..loving kindness .nd compassion, long life
25 ample sustenance joy..plenty..mercy and salvation

26 from the Father..who is..eternal..even..in heaven
(and..in/embodiment..here..on/earth);
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#176201

27 and say,..Ahh..men.
mene/mene/men-eh?

All variants.but the half/kaddish..conclude:
28 May there be abundant peace..*from heaven,
29 [and]..[good]..useful..helpful interesting life
330 living the present..moment..by the giving..of satisfaction,help,comfort, refuge,
31 healing,..redemption,..forgiveness,..atonement, 2 relief..and salvation..[unto/all..his LIVING re-creation]

33 for us..and for..all..*his people [the most..and the least]
[upon us]..*and upon all]..Israel;
and say, Amen.

34 May He..who makes peace..in..His_high-places
35 grant..[in..his mercy]..ETERNAL/peace..upon us all.
36 and..upon all of..[his nation's]..even so upon Israel;

and say,..
I am..eye..i..even..see..i..in all-men.

a Text..of the..Burial/Kaddish
[no..not yet..we come/to praise..the king..not bury him

let..the dead..tend the dead
for..in*god..we all live..

lets..take..the prayer..as read
now..live..again..in shalom..not..shallow lie

In..the burial/kaddish,.and.that after
a siyum..according..to Ashkenazim,i,..lines 2-3..are replaced/by:

37 In the world..which will be renewed
38 and..where He will..give life to the dead
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15257&page=0
39 and raise them..to eternal life
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Gone_West.pdf
40 and.rebuild ..the city of Jerusalem
http://new-birth.net/booklet/30_years_among_the_dead.PDF

and complete..His temple..there
[for the living god..is sustained..by all life living

and..uproot foreign whorship..from the earth
and..restore Heavenly living/loving..worship to..its dutiful..;position

and may..the Holy..One,see how..blessed is He,
by..setting..free..those in captivity.

reign in..tHis..sovereign splendor
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15301

<<While..the prayer itself..actually..has nothing..to do..with death,..I have found.this ritual..to be cathartic,..as it enables me to draw..on..the support..of my community.

i felt..i..was distracted,,by..the/discovery..of..the prayer
but..here is..my usual..reply,,to..death..

we are ..eternal spirits..[energy]..one second..we are alive
the next..we are finished.with-this earthy-phase..and cross over

some die..old..others young..but god gives us..each..precisly
the days..each spirit..needs..no..more..no..less..

we each..have rejected
heaven..and hell..to..become..born..here

[here is..the default..for
those without..any consuming/passion..[lust..to-do..good..[or evil].

see the..big issue..with after-life..is that MANY>.think..its..death..then..nothing..at all
[yet others think..dead..nothing,,then some 'resection/judgment day'

[jesus refuted..both..those 'days']..
resection-day..was refuted..by his brief return
and..his return..refutes 'the dead'..awaiting judgment

see we..are energy..of mind
returning home..back..into..our..fathers mind[or rejecting..the light..thi=us chose the darkness[of hell][but its our choice.]

we each..are eternal/minds..encased..but briefly..into mortal..flesh
to allow..our life-experiences..to..reveal*our soul..[stained with lifes excess/passions]..

those not developing them..in this life
get the next life..[in the astral realm..to..find
our passion..ie descend..into the hell..or forgive..other..and go to heaven.

heaven..is light..perfected..and..nothing despoils
ie..[no wine/as we have..no rotted grapes]

but hell..is decay..smells like..rotted fermented fruit/bodies..and dirty vomit..weted feet..[yet its..perceived,..by them..as dust]

from[halfway..down/page]
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5975&page=0

firstly..death..isnt dead
thus any..charge..of murder..is technically void..
BUT..as yu has..pointed out..there is deloiberated-intention..

and those..meditating-killing..must not be exposed..
to..the benefits availed..'the departed'..in..the next life
and..they are many..

see

anyhow..the/first link..is here..[gone wast]
[the best exposure..of after life][and of..our ongoing redemption]

http://new-birth.net/booklet/Gone_West.pdf

the others like ..*"the officer"
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Subaltern_Spirit_Land.pdf

''30 years..among the dead ''
http://new-birth.net/booklet/30_years_among_the_dead.PDF

[i recommend for you..the last one
its..a science text..

it proves some..of the 'powers'..of the dead
PROVES..you cant end vile..via killing....it only gives them universal ability to..reap worse evil..[via possession]..[dont laugh till you read it

[in fact..the egyptians got it right..
keep the vile..attached to their rotted corpse..]

as re-proved..in gone-west/see the drugged..[dead by overdose]..
the 'sleepers'..that validates..ab-uses..the ego/attachment..to body..to keep the dirt..from doing more vile

think of the..coma sleepers..currently
held-in stasis..by machines..[arial/sharon.]

anyhow
any death
insults..the life/sustaining good/god
no death honors..the living good

murdering..the youth..emerges them into hell
see..the officer..[they must CHOSE..to reject vile
thus sit between..heaven/hell..being taught..but free to leave..up or down

we must not think..taking the drunks car..[body]
fixes the..will..drive to drink..

killing..anything IS wrong..
[it insults..our own..life gift]

[but we been..here before..

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15257&page=0#265736
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2909&page=0#66836

but heck
we all..got eternity*

so..whats..the rush..smell..the roses
live long..and..live well..as only..a self-aware..child
of..the..one/father can..but/then too..love..thy fellow man..[honor thy..mother..and..thy father][not..just/the state[

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#176201