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By Peter Sellick, published 4/10/2013The true potential of the visual arts is that they offer the possibility of responding to the great issues of faith, without words, a truth that has no explanation.
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Posted by Daffy Duck, Friday, 4 October 2013 8:56:25 AM
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A truth always has an explanation, even that which we humans recognize as the internal ring of truth!
Experienced at a very deep level as goosebumps or very pleasant shivers up and down the spine, when we hear profoundly beautiful music, see an jaw-dropping scene of exquisite beauty, or hear a foundational truth for the very first time, even one that flies in the face of a lifetime of indoctrination! [Every time I hear a new born baby cry, or touch a leaf, or see the sky, then I know why , I believe.] After that, as always, beauty is always in the eye of the beholder, as is art? Rhrosty. Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 4 October 2013 9:57:06 AM
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What a load of piffle!
Posted by David G, Friday, 4 October 2013 1:45:02 PM
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"But I am sure that the gospel is a great consolation; that the cross of Christ is the pivotal event in history from which flows, if not the immediate defeat of evil and death, for those who live in the time between the times, the promise that evil will not finally win."
But as I understand it, Peter, you believe -- or pretend to believe -- that God has no reality and hence no power to make promises about the defeat of evil or anything else. He has no capacity to do anything, and certainly could not have sent his son to earth, given him the power to do miracles, and caused (or prevented) his persecution and death. Your God is a non-starter. He has been scratched at the starting post. Any 'promises' he might make or be imagined to make are without substance, just as he is. If you're going to claim that nothing can be said about God, then that applies to you as well as us. Your so-called 'consolation' is a miserable pathetic sham. Posted by Jon J, Friday, 4 October 2013 2:24:43 PM
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In all my years of reading on the internet, I do not think I have encountered such a lot of hogwash and faux intellectual rubbish such as this. Obviously the writer, a religious believer, has and is entitled to his beliefs in superstition, but the article
defies all reason and commonsense. Posted by Dazeddazza, Friday, 4 October 2013 6:50:13 PM
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Dear Peter,
I am not a Christian, but long before I even knew much about Christianity, in my darkest hours I found consolation in Handel's Messiah. At the time I could not understand the words, and today when I do understand them I only agree with some, yet it doesn't matter, disagreeing with certain claims is not an obstacle to inspiration and the specific narrative is secondary to the general sense that good will triumph over evil, that the weak will triumph over the strong and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together - for the mouth of the Lord has spoken it. Amen! Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 7 October 2013 1:05:41 AM
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you..yu..are important..in.this
WE..NEED you to..ask..us..to explain we needed.more of this ..<<today..when I do..understand..them* <<..I..only agree..with some..yet it..doesn't matter,..disagreeing with..certain claims..is not..*an obstacle..to inspiration>> bravo..you got it..yu ..<<and..the specific..narrative..is secondary>>..absolutely ..<..to the general sense..that good will triumph**..>> <..over evil,>>.. no..that evil..repent..their lust of it god..so..loves..a repentant..heart ..<<..that the weak..will triumph..over[with]..the strong and..the glory..of the Lord..shall be..revealed and..all flesh..shall..see it..*together>>> and none..shall be..excluded..* <<..for..the mouth..of the..Lord..has..spoken/it. Amen!>>>> yes..indeed AHHHHH..men hi..peter..it turns out..we didnt..need you but now..call..on..you.. to tell peter consolidate..christs..broken/church and..you..the watchman..what do..you..while your master..was away? ?..'The..consolation/of\art'' the/art..of what..my..dear brother.. our....fathers children..suffer greatly..needlessly.. lies/wars..runours..of ruinous of wars..fears of death [when we all got..life eternal?] get real..peter.. one cannot serve two masters& what art..arte thou?..arty farty..or hearty party? dont be confused peter.. get with..the program..the harvest is ready..the workers asleep peter..as youdid ask..on your other thread.. put forward..didst our father..use confusing language why yes..[so..we all.. could reveal..the full story]..together for as the christ..himself revealed..only a few hours ago gods son..is one so..to..our father..is one..[everyone is one] but here at your thread..was..the story..of us all..begun http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15341 god did use..a special..language first..it refuted..the science confounded..the atheists.. into silence http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15257&page=0 even saved the beast http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6065&page=0 then finished off..at..lamb-island succession..thread please inform peter..without delay... continued from lamb/isl/succession-threat http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0 ok..there was .some hard losses like atheist...or theist.. *pulled down..the full record http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15124#15124 and the wikiseed detail[yet again] but some remain.. in..google cache' http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0U40Tb_c5NsJ:http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D15046%26sid%3Df742d9b4b83b222e3d18407329dffe0d%2Bjohan9+the+death+insight+swedenburg+acim&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hl=en&as_q=&nfpr=&spell=1&ct=clnk http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search%3Fq%3Dcache:0U40Tb_c5NsJ:http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php%253Fp%253D15046%2526sid%253Df742d9b4b83b222e3d18407329dffe0d%252Bcelestine%2Bthe%2Bdeath%2Binsight%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla%253Aen-US%253Aofficial%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk&sa=U&ei=AjZWUqGeNMOAiQfM4IDwAw&ved=0CBwQIDAA&sig2=XgfhLW6R8se3ztWqjzW6Kw&usg=AFQjCNGG699wmZnjNnMDNRPGD1hcoyvwAA http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search%3Fq%3Dcache:wYP28df-iaAJ:http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php%253Fp%253D15098%2526sid%253Dfa145d632edac15c7eadbc4ce153166a%252Bcelestine%2Bforum%2Bthe%2Bdeath%2Binsight%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla%253Aen-US%253Aofficial%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk&sa=U&ei=iTVWUqaLCIewiAem_4HgAw&ved=0CBwQIDAA&sig2=ZCTRQYRW99lnhD2kGcYOrw&usg=AFQjCNF6h1_N2c7Lk6Am1V13plrEsQgZlg http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search%3Fq%3Dcache:cbKL2-W0OloJ:http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php%253Fp%253D15054%252Bpages%2Bcelestine%2Bforum%2Bthe%2Bdeath%2Binsight%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla%253Aen-US%253Aofficial%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk&sa=U&ei=PjVWUqizMqT_iAe6tICgBw&ved=0CBwQIDAA&sig2=1PtLBYhfsSmOhEnNiNvsAg&usg=AFQjCNGa9p35YEqivGZuB6ya0bZWm2k47A http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search%3Fq%3Dcache:cbKL2-W0OloJ:http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php%253Fp%253D15054%252Bcached%2Bpages%2Bcelestine%2Bforum%2Bthe%2Bdeath%2Binsight%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DeVU%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla%253Aen-US%253Aofficial%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk&sa=U&ei=KjRWUrDeH-awiQe0iYH4CA&ved=0CB4QIDAA&sig2=FpLICJriFBSFD6Pg9c7nXQ&usg=AFQjCNHQzb4AR4xxWqbxZBr79NrukHj11g The faulty/use of creation has made.this necessary as a corrective device...“And God so loved the world..that He gave his only begotten Son.so that whosoever..believeth..on Him shall/not perish* but..have Eternal Life” needs only one slight correction..to be entirely meaningful in this context...It should read “And God so loved the world that he gave it*..TO His..only begotten Son.” It should be..noted that God HAS begotten..only..*ONE Son. you could..agree with that? a simple yes..or know..will..suffice continues thats why we need peter.. to..do do some..saint making..so we get the full revelation chists divided house..has many saintly teachers many messengers were sent..to many peoples each landmass..has its comforter jesus..number 1 son..what ya think do not deny..me again..peter well what ya think? http://miraclevision.com/acim/urtext/acim-urtext-2003-upe-ready-edition.pdf in//jesus..own words Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 5:19:14 PM
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Know Your..Magnetic Field
It is..worth repeating..that ultimately.. there is no compromise possible between..everything and nothing... The purpose of time is essentially a device by which all..compromise in this respect can be abolished. It seems to be abolished by degrees precisely..because time itself involves a concept of intervals which does not really exist. as for..the rest..of it.. here is the rest..of the final..[so-far].. maybe..final..point..? if its not..If you believe... that all of..the Souls..that God created..ARE His Son,..and if you also..believe..that..you.. and..his Sunship..*is One,..*then every Soul.. *MUST be..a Sun/of the light..a child..of God[love/under grace/mercy..etc ,..or..an..integral part*.. of the full story.. of his Sonship...as revealed..by the christ himself we are enjoined..living-MORTAL-HEIRS.. of all..of our immortal/eternal fathers estates CUSTODIAN-ship* ward-ship that ye..do to..the least..we do..to the most. You do not..find..the concept..that the whole.. is greater than its parts..too..difficult..to understand.>? You should..therefore not have..too great difficulty..with this. The/Son-ship in its Oneness.. DOES transcend..the sum of its parts...However, it loses this special-state..as long as..*any of its parts are missing. This is why..the conflict cannot..ultimately be resolved..UNTIL..the sum/all..of the individual parts.. of the Sonship have returned...*Only then,..in the/true sense, [spirit-of/the word.. can..the meaning of..wholeness..be understood. [atonement[at_one_meant] The concept of..minus numbers has always been..regarded..as a mathematical..rather/than an actual expedient...(This is a major limitation..on mathematics..as presently understood.). Any statement which..implies degrees..of difference *in negation..is essentially..meaningless... [where..is your..debt..paid-in-full?] What..can replace..this negative approach..*is a recognition..of the fact that.. as..long..as one part..(which is the same as...a million or ten or eight millions..of thousand parts)..of the..Sonship is missing,.. *!*>..it is..NOT complete./*!*\ In the..Divine psyche,..the Father.and the Holy Spirit are not incomplete at all. The..Sonship has..*the unique faculty..of believing in error,..or incompleteness, \*!*/..if he so selects...\*!*/ http://miraclevision.com/acim/urtext/acim-urtext-2003-upe-ready-edition.pdf read..it.. he will know.. look at each word..as if..a whole sentence..in mimd pictures sentience..the..christ..is listening.. now what? page/65 well what you..think we even..redefined death http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15557&page=0 tell..peter..this xmass better be..re jesus NOT..dying but not being dead..indeed lives live time..speaking from the heart we also busted open some more seals like the money changers http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6064&page=0 anyhow..peter its been fun..over to you or are..you..more interested..in.."The consolation of art" not bringing the sheep back home to the sheppard Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 5:19:36 PM
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sleeper/awake=u..matthew7;1-26..[take/it..to..heaRT][MATT..23;2-25]
http://www.examiner.com/article/pope-francis-met-with-bling-bishop-and-preached-against-greed-homily its sad..the nest feathering JAMES5;1-20.2;4-20.3;[ALL]4;4-17. http://www.google.com.au/search?q=pope+francis& Bishop Tebartz-van Elst was summoned to the Vatican..yesterday..to discuss..the $42..million renovation..of his..official..residence, jesus..deserves..so much better.. is..this..your best? dont see how killing..any beast,,[unless for to eat].. is worth this..libel/label...of a beastly killer [remember..to collude or condone..ANY..murder..is the same guilt..morally..as well as..a under mens law] the law..of thou.,.shalt not MURDER* [the law has no*..*sub-clause..get it?] http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6065&page=0 no sub being..all life IS SACRED http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0 not for the life..its being..but by the creator,who is,sustaining..it too..its living [and by..the vile..life..that..is living.. WHICH..he yet sustains..them too..their living [in..the best body..they can..wish for..[some.of us..are just less imaginative..others reach..for the stars..[chose..becoming..even/suns..of..the sun] but..the law..begins/ends..with dont..murder..any living-one [bu..no-one..is without..this sin..of murder [even if..by ignorance..they..murder 2000..living/soy-seeds.. in..multiple/alkaline-baths..,,just-to..make/fake-milk..for..a lattee' murder..is yet..murder thats/why..even..vego's..should..pray4..their-prey.. pray..over..their food..for that..which was murded..just so..you could..live/off..ya soy/corpses..life-blood..[the..very life juice..[vampireisms..come/to..mind] we..are..*all=energy..some..in/thinking-mind/form's others..as..auto-reactive/beasts..others..sleeping..as..if/plant [the/sleepers..really believed..life..death..*then nothing its..a way..we use to..help/make..them awake..[i guess..by baking them..[murded-seeds]..in an..oven..helps them..to spiritually awake..hopefully..into a..higher/life-form.. if/not..the energy..exchange systems..move..your life..energy..ever on..further on..[de-evolution] let/me..relate..the..gold-fish/toad..parable for..your/edification..[cause education..is resisted] edited http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6065&page=0 anyhow..one day the..fish..were gone.. and all..i..had left..was string..upon string..of cane-toad/eggs seems..a hungry..cane-toad..somehow..*found..the energy..[from/eating the..saved-fish..to create..yet more..life-forms..[homes..for spirit] 5/fish..became..over..a thousand..cane toads but in many stages..some matured really fast..and.moved-on the others stayed and stayed..grew/fat..but..left somehow.very quickly..once..i got..bored..with/the..lesson..it seems..spirit..is needing..the..morphiousus/form..more than..the metamorphose/the..5 fish suggestion..is take..our brothers..into protective custody use..the/land..to feed...*all..of us. you/greenies..r..being conned..big-time by.;that/.lot.that uses..beastly GAMES..to/keep..us from-what..men,..must..in-time..become.. the/caretaker[brothers-keeper]...you take care..of others..we..take care..of you..2 [ps..watch-out..for large..hatchings.. you..know..what/that..means] BUT..we..get/better..than we earned anyhow..a pond..need's/care so..i..put in..more-fish..[or else..the/only bodies available..to..evolving-spirits..would be mosque'itos..[the/blood sukking-type].. not..the educative..of jesus/message..kind at..least/mahamoud..[may peace..be upon..all..of/gods..many messengers] anyhow..the mosque-kind..of ..kind-mind.. at..least got..the/law..pure..[of..no imagery.. no..eating/flesh..drinking/blood.. as..true-mosque-eato$..do anyhow..it..needs be..spelled out dis-spelled..the myth..that.life energy..can expire ENERGY....CANNOT BE..CREATED>>NOR..DESTROYED there..can..only/be..endless seemingly..new beginnings..just as..there is..ENDLESS rebirth that..was/not..a new parrable but an..important one..comes to..mind men..kill..elders.. [attack those..of wisdom..of age] the..older..the tree..the older..the sleepy spirit..embodied..in-it http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15257&page=0 Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 1:07:43 PM
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my latest rave
please take that forgotten authority-=power..back to peter http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15603&page=0 some other back ground http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6064&page=0 first lets get the official-business out of the way that the comforter's comforter come..and justice be guided..to be done..by someone the wolf has adopted the cloak..of the sheep how long..must they be left ignorant/asleep? oh comforter's.. why..comfort thou..not my..flok? that ye did for the least..thou didst for the most [but lets be seen..as doing..it..just for the least.. its what the most mostly wanted. teach..it in school..teach..the golden-rule http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15602&page=0 as they did reap..we did will when we went..to sow let ye who..reaped the ill harvest..pay..the piper..to yield Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 October 2013 8:18:21 AM
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hi/peter..today..my-guides are declaring war on..mistranslation
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6073&page=0 Line-by-line..RE_editing.;.[of ALL*..holy texts] There..is,..as mentioned,..copious..line-by-line editing. The sheer volume..of it takes..one aback,..as we are..accustomed to thinking/of the words..of the Course..as straight from Jesus. The following/example..will give you a sense/of the line-by-line editing..I suggest you read it..in two ways. First,..read down..each column. http://www.circleofa.org/library/acim-history-issues/copyright/earlier-versions/ Then,..read across-reading..each line as it evolves..through..the different versions. Urtext#...Hugh Lynn Cayce/...Standard Course* You..now share..my inability#..As you share.. *my inability/..As you share..my unwillingness to..tolerate..the lack/of love#../..to tolerate lack of love *to..accept error in yourself..and..in.everyone else,#.. /in..yourself and..others,...*in..yourself...and others, and must/join#/you must/join..*you..must/join the/Great-Crusade..to correct it.# the/Great/Crusade.to correct it. *the/great*crusade..to correct it; The..slogan/for this..Crusade..is."Listen,..Learn,.and Do."# /The.slogan/for..the Crusade..is.."Listen,.learn,..and do;"— *..This..means Listen..to My-Voice..Listen..to my-voice,..listen..to my voice, #..Learn to..*undo..the error,#,../learn..to undo..error//*learn..to undo error.. #and..do something..to..correct it./and..do.something..to.correct it..29..*and..act..to correct it..(T-1.III.1:6) #The..first..two..are not enough... /The..real members..of my party...are active workers..28 This brief example..contains..almost all..of the important..characteristics..of..the line-by-line..editing: Lots..of editing...The..sheer/volume..of changes..is striking. Out of..68 words,.45..*words have..been changed..(removed,/replaced, added,/or...de-emphasized). Faithful...?The editors..have clearly..tried very hard..to be faithful.to the meaning of the original...It is..difficult..to detect a.significant/change..in meaning. Slight/alterations..in meaning?..While there..are..no significant changes..in the..superficial-meaning*..of our passage,..there are some..slight..alterations...[of emphasis] In..the standard/version,..you join..the great crusade.. because..you have..become unwilling..to accept/error..(or..lack..of love/or..over/fearing..anything]). In..the original/version,..however,..both..your joining..the Great Crusade..and*..your unwillingness..to accept..lack of love..come from the fact..that/you have.."been restored..to..your original state"..where..*all fear..is illusion.. (from..the line..preceding..our/passage)... That's..a very minor..alteration...Slightly more significant..is the downplaying of behavior..in the editing..of..the final lines...This is a consistent/pattern..in the editing..which I will discuss below. Less lively,..more tame.[erantly/safe] After editing,..the material..is generally..less lively and spirited. In the original,..you become unable..to tolerate..the..lack of..fearless-love...In the standard version,..however,..you become merely unwilling*..to accept error. There is..an insistent,..emphatic note..in the original that is..consistently softened..by the editing...This makes the Course sound..more remote,..more tame. Set..next to..the original,..it feels sanitized. Less specific...The removal.of..specifics..takes place on a line-by-line basis...You can see..that here...The Crusade no longer has a "slogan,".and there is no longer..a "party"..with "workers." The familiar..cultural image..of a political party..on a crusade, with busy workers..chanting their slogan,..has been taken out. More vague.. Although..the meaning.of our passage h..as not been changed,..it is somewhat less apparent...For instance,..we now may wonder what.."act to correct"..error means. Does this mean..physical action? The original,..however.. leaves no doubt: "do something..to correct it…. http://www.circleofa.org/library/acim-history-issues/copyright/earlier-versions/ Posted by one under god, Friday, 25 October 2013 9:53:58 AM
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im..against..post limits..[2peter2]
but..have found..the easy/solution[open..the archives..immediately] [from..the..new/link] http://www.circleofa.org/library/acim-history-issues/copyright/earlier-versions/ Part of..the need..for the Second-Edition,..as we saw earlier, was that..a kind of..telephone game...[pass/the mess-age]..had occurred..with the retypings of the Text. There were four re-typings,..two of which..were not proofread and two of which..were not adequately proofread... This meant..that errors..(typographical/errors..and inadvertent omissions..of material),..rather..than being corrected,..simply accumulated..with each..new retyping. Hence,..for the Second Edition,..proofreaders went..back to the beginning..to catch all the errors:.."The three books of the First Edition..of A Course in Miracles..were proofread..against the urtext that Bill..had originally typed..from Helen's notes."48 What..I have not yet mentioned..is that a similar telephone-game occurred..with the editing of the Course...A close comparison of the different versions..reveals that each version..was edited only by consulting..*the most recent version,..a fact that Ken Wapnick has confirmed.49 This means..that the second draft..was edited only by consulting the Urtext,..not the shorthand notebooks...The HLC was edited..only by consulting the second draft,..not the Urtext..or the shorthand notebooks. WHAT..IM..GETTING AT HERE..is this has occurred..globally but peter..has acces to_all..the drafts..ALL WE GIVEN>>TO ALL..OF US..not just..the pope[s] The.standard Course..was edited..only by consulting the HLC,..not the second draft,.the Urtext,..or..the shorthand notebooks... If you look at..the "Great Crusade".,.passage above,..you can see this. http://www.circleofa.org/library/acim-history-issues/copyright/earlier-versions/ Notice..how,..once..material drops out,..it stays out; it..is not..ever..put back in.[lost] Notice..how,..once even..the most minor changes..*are made, they are not..allowed..be undone;..they either remain,,errant/or are changed..further. And..what you see..in this one..passage is true..all the way through...ALL..HOLY_TEXTS So..there was...a kind of..academic/telephone game,..which in this case means..that imperfect editing decisions,..rather than being corrected,..simply compounded..as the chain..with/the past..grew longer...[and lost context] Therefore,..just as..someone went back to..the beginning to catch all the typos..for the Second-Edition,.so someone*..needs to..go back to the beginning..(in this case,..to the shorthand/notebooks)..and re-examine..*all the..editing decisions. This new edit..should receive..the care befitting..the scriptural status/the Course has..acquired for..so many thousands..of seekers, DONE>>..BY& MANY WILLING WORKERS>>NOW* [live..on web]..this day. *the kind of care..you would..associate,,with..a new translation..of the Bible...[dont..start/me..on.that-one][CONTEXT*} At..the very least,..there should be..an authorized version..of the shorthand notebooks,..the Urtext,..and the HLC.[plus..marbaker/luther/swedeenberg.moramn..wesly..etc etc This..would guarantee*..that we have..complete and accurate versions of..the Urtext..and HLC,[bible/koran/torah/ichin..etc etc and..would also make..the shorthand notebooks..*publicly available...ON_LINE..all the time*..[as written]..like saved-texts..deserve to be..KNOWN*. post-script [i..see the..3 popes..going to..george..[xmas/morning] ..to form..the commonwealth..of spirit..elders of god council] Posted by one under god, Friday, 25 October 2013 12:16:19 PM
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pappa..
[not...<<..ignoring the child..?] <<..saying..the emperor..is wearing no clothes?] http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15618#270747 what would jesus say today..? go..away..or stay have a nice day* http://www.google.com.au/search?q=pope+child&client=firefox-a&hs=S7i&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=ivnsu&source=univ&tbm=nws&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=grlxUvPdFMzXkgW3o4EI&ved=0CBsQqAI Posted by one under god, Thursday, 31 October 2013 12:09:02 PM
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will you be asking for input?
from http://www.news.va/en/news/preparing-for-the-synod 8. The Relationship Between the Family and the Person a) Jesus Christ reveals the mystery and vocation of the human person.>>> thats a great question so how does the state convert..personhood..into slavery? cargo..is accorded a berthing certification[a berth certificate http://macquirelatory.com/Birth%20Certificate%20Truth.htm ditto a person[under the act]..has been registered as cargo as witnessed by our birthing[live birth]certification..creating a legal person/under the act..thus a slave/person/under the act http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nQVv2OmpqQ http://www.google.com.au/search?q=person+berthing+%2Fbirth+water see to obtain..the berthing certification..a person..under the act..needs apply[applying means beg]..and the begger is presumed to know for what he begs[freemen..need no permissions..need ask n0 one..they are fee-born..but in a world of masters and slaves[realities versus fictions]..[satans realm of paper] we are enslaved [dehumanized into statehood jurisdiction/fictions.[personhood..immediately we emerge from..our mothers waters[our parents by virtue of being persons under the marriage act..cannot conceive[sic]a freeborn being..because they are slaves[persons/under the law..thus /under the act]..its rightly said two wongs cant breed a right anyhow the person..[unde the act] ..is created..when you sign ANYTHING [its achieved..by the mark/of the beast*.. ie your sig-nature..gives life to the dead fiction put your mark here XXX welcome into satans realm of statehood paperhood personhoood fiction How can the family be a privileged place for this to happen? via birth certification b) What critical situations in the family today can obstruct a person’s encounter with Christ? the living enslaved to sustaining dead-corporate person-hood/fictions c) To what extent..do the many crisis..[of faith] which people can experience..affect family life? depends onthe devine doctrines they feel they have violated 9. Other Challenges and Proposals the mark of the corporate personhood entrapment state controlling church..church doing the vile of state or simply staying silent Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 7:56:11 AM
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the purpose of the baptism..is the renewal..of the freeman
[emerging from the HOLY_waters..creates the new berthing certification [the baptismal birth rectification indicates we belong..ONLY to god] we have only one true father but the church took the statehood gifts..exemptions so supports the lies...of personhood..[not of sonship] its a huge mess peter a miss/under-standing..by demons but we stand..or fall..under god alone [if the church only knew..or cared..for the living [half as much as it reveres the dead*..[yet death..where is thy sting? Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 8:08:27 AM
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http://www.aboutadidam.org/testimonials/art_architecture/index.html
http://www.daplastique.com/reviews/lisa_streitfeld.html
On Sacred Music
http://www.adidaupclose.org/music/index.html
Also the understanding of the relation between E=MC2 or quantum reality and the human situation as described in this interesting book.
http://www.artandphysics.com
An essay on Quantum Reality
http://www.dabase.org/Reality_Itself_Is_Not_In_The_Middle.htm
On Adam and Eve in the garden of Indestructible Conscious Light
http://www.beezone.com/adidajesus/adamnervoussystemeveflesh.html