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By David Singer, published 27/8/2013Labor is divided on the legality of Israeli West Bank settlements.
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Posted by halduell, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 8:29:39 AM
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david singer..<<..Rudd personally..as well as the Labor Party had adopted as policy..that Jews had no right to legally live in the West Bank...>>
what rot.. live where you chose just dont claim ..more than..the right to live IN PEACE..there you dont got no rite to build walls/terrorize/trick..nor drive any people..from their homes nor to bomb the natives into ever smaller gulags what dont you get yet? its not yours..its gods.. grow up david you want Armageddon think again..pal..your insane.. go home in peace.. war is over./.cause we want..*peace..not pieces get it? let celibate.. gods people ..welcome home the peacemaker/comforter. perace at last peace at last this time it lasts the first ..were the last.. to get it see the joke.. now learn to love..[other.. ie..not just thy own]..peace..shalom Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 8:45:46 AM
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To #halduell
How would you describe a policy that denies Jews have the right to live in their ancient biblical and historical homeland in an area designated by the League of Nations and the United Nations as giving them the legal entitlement to do so? Pro-Jewish or anti-Jewish? To #one under god You state: "live where you chose just dont claim ..more than..the right to live IN PEACE..there" The problem is that Mahmoud Abbas does not agree with you - as the following statement makes clear: “In a final resolution, we would not see the presence of a single Israeli — civilian or soldier — on our lands,” Abbas said following a meeting with interim Egyptian President Adly Mansour in Cairo as reported in the Times of Israel on 30 July 2013. 1.2 million Arabs live as equal citizens with 6.3 million Jews in Israel. Abbas is not prepared to have one Jew live in the state of Palestine he is seeking to create. Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 9:47:07 AM
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'Labor is divided on the legality of Israeli West Bank settlements.'
I'm surprised they even care one way or the other, seeing as though they are attempting to govern a different country ie Australia. I am shocked that you care seeing as how Australia has absolutely no international influence in this area. 'motivated to vote against Labor policies that deny Jews the right to settle in the West Bank ' Just how do these policies deny the rights of Jews in another country? I am surprised the 'policies' exist in the first place, given the Australian government has no jurisdiction in other countries affairs. Perhaps they have to placate the loonies that are more interested in impotent symbolic gestures than the good of the country they are actually living in. 'Hastily conceived policies drawn up in the heat of an election campaign appear set to hit the Labor Party with devastating effect.' Devastating! Are there really that many Jews and Muslims in Aus with a persecution complex? Posted by Houellebecq, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 12:21:22 PM
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Singer equates the statements that settlements in the West bank are illegal with "Jews have no right to legally live in the West Bank."
Pretty absurd statement really. We would not tolerate Israeli settlements in Australia either, particularly not if they came accompanied by the Israeli Army, massive walls, land theft and violence against Australian citizens. This does not mean that "Jews have no right to live in Australia" though. Of course Jews have the right to live in Australia. But only as Australian citizens. Not some separate, heavily armed nation within a nation. I am sure that the Palestinians would not object to Jews wishing to live in the West Bank if they wished to live there as Palestinian citizens though. Particularly if it resulted in an end to the military occupation of their country. This is not what the settlers want though. They wish to extend the the Israeli jurisdiction into the lands it conquered in 1967 and in fact have done so. Of course, Mr Singer will deny that Palestine is a country or that Palestinians even exist, so such arguments will have little impact on him I'm sure. Posted by Rhys Jones, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 1:45:43 PM
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Houellebecq. I don't think it is the 'total' Moslem/Jewish population (%), but the % in key marginal seats that are targeted, hence, Lakemba being the western Sydney venue for this 'policy on the run' pronouncement.
I agree that " Australia has absolutely no international influence in this area" other than our soon to be filled seat on the security council. Many of the best legal minds in the international forum are trying to 'nut out' the legal position of the West Bank, given the clearly stated intention of the UN and the League of Nations declarations of recent history. To unquestioningly accept the legal view of a narrow clique of Labour infused foreign affairs lawyers would be unwise I think Posted by Prompete, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 1:53:04 PM
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to #Houellebeceq
Australia - like all countries in the United Nations - pursue policies that affect the interests of countries beyond their own borders. The Labor policy -supposedly as espoused by Carr - denies Jews the legal right to live in the West Bank. When and if this in fact is Labor policy remains a mystery - as I explain in my article. Rudd and the Labor Party are presently doing a delicate balancing act in refusing to confirm this is Labor party policy and The Prime Minister's personal opinion. A one sentence press release could easily clear up the confusion. Why the delay? To #Rhys Jones Unlike Australia - the last sovereign occupier of the West Bank was Great Britain between 1920- 1948. The West Bank has been no-man's land since then and sovereignty to it is disputed by both Jews and Arabs. You repeat the claim of # one under god in proclaiming: "I am sure that the Palestinians would not object to Jews wishing to live in the West Bank if they wished to live there as Palestinian citizens though. Particularly if it resulted in an end to the military occupation of their country " I can only repeat what Mahmoud Abbas said on 30 July: "“In a final resolution, we would not see the presence of a single Israeli — civilian or soldier — on our lands,” When you make statements be prepared to back them up. When Abbas makes a statement along the lines you seem so sure of - drop me a line. Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 5:34:02 PM
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To #Prompete
You are spot on. The Labor Party is desperate for the Moslem vote in tightly held marginal seats where large Moslem populations reside - and where that vote is not necessarily assured because of the Rudd Government policy that would see future Moslem asylum seekers landing in Australia denied the right to live in Australia. Trying to get that vote back by suggesting the Labor party has a policy that denies Jews the right to live in the West Bank has been obviously thought out as a clever way to win over the Moslem vote in those marginal seats. Whilst Labor remains silent on whether that is indeed the policy of the Labor party and Rudd - as foisted on it by Carr at the Lakemba Mosque - the Moslem vote will certainly not be forthcoming. Rudd has to confirm or deny it is Labor Party policy, when that policy was formulated and when it was adopted. Is it really that hard for Prime Minister Rudd to tell us when this unequivocal and unapologetic policy was adopted by Mr Rudd himself and the Labor Party? End the confusion - and end it quickly Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 5:41:02 PM
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David singer, you quote Mahmoud Abbas saying “In a final resolution, we would not see the presence of a single Israeli — civilian or soldier — on our lands,”
This is not at all the same as saying "no Jews allowed to live in the West Bank" as you continue to claim in your usual deceitful manner. The vast majority of Jews in the World are not Israelis. Whether soldiers or civilians. Posted by Rhys Jones, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 5:47:44 PM
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David, Prompete, just one quick point.
Most "Muslims" in this country, especially Lebanese absolutely hate "Asylum Seekers", the Pacific solution is popular among Muslims and Immigrants generally. Apart from Asylum Seekers themselves I've never seen any number Muslims,long term citizens or Australian born at pro refugee rallies. Muslims don't vote as a bloc, there are leftists,liberals, conservatives and centrists among them, we can assume that Jews can think for themselves as well and that there are the same political debates happening at their dinner tables as in anyone else's house. My father has been a lifelong radical Leftist,so is my sister, my mother is more of a Left/Liberal and I'm a White Nationalist, there's no way of telling what goes on in a typical family much less a whole ethnic group and it's debatable how far "pandering" or tailoring a message to a particular group really goes toward winning seats. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 6:02:54 PM
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' denies Jews the legal right to live in the West Bank'
How does that even work in practice? How does any ALP policy directly deny the rights of Jews in Israel? How will their policy be effective? If Jews want the right to live in the West Bank, how will the ALP deny them that right? Emotive hyperbole. It seems about as likely as Australia influencing gun laws in the US. 'Rudd and the Labor Party are presently doing a delicate balancing act in refusing to confirm this is Labor party policy and The Prime Minister's personal opinion. A one sentence press release could easily clear up the confusion.' Must be more nut cases in marginal seats than I thought, as Prompete suggests. Then again governments usually stay clear of these kind of topics in an election campaign. Personally I am unimpressed when any government bothers to define it's position on such things (I mean why would you care what the PMs personal opinion is, so you can label him antisemitic?) as a conduit for the petty rivalries of ethnic and religious minorities. BTW: I come from a pretty neutral perspective. I also deplored the NSW Greens ridiculous sanctions. Then again I was also incensed at the even more ridiculous attempt to construct an Eruv in St Ives by using dummy power poles. Posted by Houellebecq, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 6:16:38 PM
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It is not their biblical homeland, the bible is not a real story, it is a series of myths and parables written who knows when and by whom.
To claim that only jews can live there is beyond deranged. Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 6:56:20 PM
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Hi David,
at it again I see! When did Israel sanction the policy of Apartheid and when did they sanction the policy of a blockade on the Palestinian people you keep referring to? Talk about hypocrisy! When you deny a people the basics of life for long enough, you eventually get to feel their blow-back. As US hegemony in the ME declines I wonder who will fill the Israeli supporting back-up when it is needed most, certainly won't be the US or NATO. Get used to being alone in the world as any Apartheid state should! Geoff Posted by Geoff of Perth, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 7:22:56 PM
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Don't you ever shutup David?
Lollol Posted by imajulianutter, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 7:51:37 PM
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And another thing David,
what the hell does Liberal or Labor policy have to do or justify in the upcoming election when it comes to the ersatz nation of Israel. You can push your barrow only so far, who care's what any Jewish Australian organisation thinks or does, at the end of the day it means nothing to Joe or Jane average in the street. Israel is a pariah state and as such Carr and Rudd, despite not putting pen to paper in relation to a genuine policy shift, should be congratulated for identifying Israel's current racist political, ethnic, social, environmental and economic policies for what they really are. You can push on your pathetic piece of string as much as you like, unfortunately for you, you have now been exposed completed as what we have all surmised for the past few years. You are a bigot, a racist and a deluded soul, shame on you and those you purport to support Geoff Posted by Geoff of Perth, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 10:33:38 PM
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Another barrage of lies for hasbara points. Here they are, from the beginning:
1. In the heading: Mr Singer presents Rudd and Carr disdaining to switch from real Australian issues as “being tight-lipped” on “anti-Jewish policy”. The “anti-Jewish” lie is especially blatant, being placed right next to the actual words of Bob Carr (read them, folks). Such hectoring lies are like Howard’s Iraq WMD lies – arrogant in demanding that the listener accept a plainly untrue statement or be vilified as Andrew Wilkie was. 2. “the Labor Party had adopted as policy that Jews had no right to legally live in the West Bank”. First, the 4th Geneva Convention, which declares illegal occupiers’ transfer of settlers to occupied territory, was adopted by Australia in 1958 when the parliament ratified it. Second, there is no prohibition of Jews living in the occupied territory in accordance with its laws. Third, Jews lived peacefully alongside Arabs in Palestine for generations, long before the Nakba shattered the peace. 3. “Mosque Declaration was shoddy policy made on the run” Another lie: the policy was put together in lengthy negotiations involving dozens of nations including Australia. The new policy proclaimed on this issue is by Julie Bishop, repudiating the law that parliament led by her own party had ratified along with the rest of the world’s decent (and some indecent) nations. 4. “another hastily cobbled together policy announced by Rudd in July regarding asylum seekers - making it clear newcomers would no longer be re-settled in Australia under any circumstances” Actually the policy is to deny boat people, not newcomers, resettlement in Australia. 5. “this policy reversal.” Lie repeated. Stirling is my electorate. I’ll be urging everyone I know to place Dan Caddy last, and hoping the Zionists really do manage to bring on a public debate. Posted by EmperorJulian, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 10:59:13 PM
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To the best of my recollection, for years on OLO, there's been a weekly "article' from David Singer, a privilege afforded to no other contributor as far as I can tell. The question is why?
Where are the Palestinian propagandists? Russell Walton Posted by mac, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 10:09:54 AM
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To #Rhys Jones
"Israeli" = "Jew" = 6.2 million Israeli Jews. Abbas does not want a single one of them living in his State. BTW - What is the source of your claim that "the vast majority of Jews in the World are not Israelis." To #Jay of Melbourne You make a lot of general and unsubstantiated comments about the Moslem vote. Consider this opinion appearing on the SBS news site: "Associate Professor Rodney Smith specialises in Australian politics at the University of Sydney. He says a lot of the marginal electorates in western Sydney have large numbers of voters from a non-English-speaking background. Dr Smith believes the debate around the future direction of immigration and asylum seeker policy could have a big impact on who these voters support. "It is clear that migration issues are issues which are of great sensitivity to communities, particularly communities which are affected through family and other links with people who want to come to Australia. So I think both the major political parties will be very careful in terms of the way they present their candidates and their statements around these issues, but also their more general policies. It is possible that the Labor Party may suffer some backlash through its tightening of the 457 visas, but by the same token, it may be the case that there may be some groups in those electorates who may well say 'Well, by doing that, it's giving people who are already here more of an opportunity to get work'." Dr Smith believes Labor will struggle to retain its marginal seats in New South Wales and the party is also unlikely to win seats from the Coalition. He believes the Liberals are likely to win the western Sydney seats of Parramatta, Reid and Greenway from Labor, the central coast seats of Dobell and Robertson and the southern Sydney seat of Banks." Would Rudd,Carr and the Labor Party be listening to you or Rodney Smith when trying to work out the best way to get the Moslem vote after alienating Moslems with their asylum seekers policy? Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 12:01:56 PM
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peter...i admire your stick-to-it-ness
but mate..your flogging a dead horse..think my brrr-other the history..is mainly the work..of fiction archeo-logical excavation..havnt confirmed the hype. few of the events can be confirmed to have happened.. in the time..according to your owncalender..[even your own messiah..rejected by his own..is un-able..to be confirmed..definitively.] every time g-d..offerd himself to you your people yet again..peeved him off ..now you wage eternal war..in gods OWN..sacred lands god needs build no wall only..the invader builds his castles..his place off defense..dah fence it belies all..your own..messiah..tried to..teach.. for god to return home..SIMPLY doas christ said to do ie love god byloving other to serve god..SERVE other we get the god we de-serve KNOW THY MASTERS voice=MERCY FULL../graceful/living/logical/ light sustaining life.. logus/logic that via living ..we learn to love..other..[see god/good in other] god..is the shorter version of good..war is bad/fear is bad when will we SEE gods own people giving good BACK..to g-d ahhh men we even see El..in hell and thats what you ...turned gods garden..into colonization..n-one oh one ahhh..please note how the lazy..holy men..[extremist's in dead word].. are out breeding ...you true..intellectuals.. seeking peace not pieces..or are you? Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 12:32:24 PM
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To #Houellbecq
If Labor Party and Rudd indeed have adopted the policy that denies Jews the legal right to live in the West Bank - it signals an anti-Jewish policy that voters should be aware of before casting their votes. Labor and Rudd appear to be having an each way bet - getting Carr to announce it is their policy on the steps of the Lakemba Mosque to collect Moslem votes that might not otherwise go to Labor because of revulsion at its asylum seekers policy - then running for cover when exception is taken that the same policy is anti-Jewish for fear of losing the Jewish vote. Rudd needs to clear up the confusion Is the Lakemba Mosque Declaration Rudd's view and that of the Labor Party as Carr said it is - or was Carr fitting Rudd and the Labor Party with a policy they have not adopted? #To Marilyn Shepherd Talking to Jew haters like you who believe all Jews in Israel should be demonised and delegitimized is a waste of time. I have decided that for every Jew-hating comment posted from now on - I will post something of interest about what Jews in Israel are achieving for your benefit as well as the other Jew haters out there. Here is the first installment: 1. Two new Israeli devices help unconscious patients to breathe and to be fed intravenously. 2. Israeli scientists have discovered how to turn inedible plants into food crops. · 3. Israel has built an accurate forecasting system to help put out forest fires. To #Geoff of Perth Another Jew hating comment. Some things that have been done by Israelis for you: 1. New Israeli tendon helps athletes spring back into action. 2. Re-growing cartilage. 3. Generic alternative for brain tumor treatment. To #imajulianutter Here's three more for you: 1. A sensor that can detect pressure, temperature and humidity that can be applied to a prosthetic limb to give the wearer more life-like sensations. 2.Redesigning stents for brain and other blockages. 3.The world’s first ever kidney transplant between two living HIV carriers. · Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 12:40:48 PM
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david
can i have some too israel=a fiction..it invented nothing david<<..I have decided..that for every Jew-hating comment>> isnt that ISRAEL..hating comment..?..[con/meant?] <<..posted from now on - I will post something of interest about what Jews*..in Israel..> or jews generally..? just so many ...just in..Hollywood..or Washington dc Einstein to the many jews in show-buisnes/media/law/art/science..etc etc yes the chosen people got so much talent they dont..think..they..*need anyone else..right? mein home camph the 4 th reiche" israel<<..are achieving..for your benefit as well as the other Jew haters..out there>> yeah..right..stux/virus Armageddon ..<<..1. Two new Israeli devices help unconscious patients to breathe and to be fed intravenously.>> oh..is he still in a coma? let the old solder go..be humane..for once..give him preace no one hates jews*!* we hate the liars..who think..statehood fictions*..as if real. as jesuus said..let the dead tend the dead..love god by loving other. Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 1:49:54 PM
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Step 1. Collect underpants.
Step 2. .......... Step 3. Profit! Step 1. Australian Labor Party Makes vague policy outline statement Step 2. .......... Step 3. Israeli Jews are denied the right to live in the West Bank. Posted by Houellebecq, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 5:11:11 PM
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David, whilst Wikipedia is not a peer reviewed journal, its population statistics tend to be pretty good. About 6 million Jews in Israel out of some 14-15 million in the world depending on how you define a Jew.
This certainly qualifies for a large majority. You are truly a dishonest man. I read your articles out of some masochistic desire to upset myself reading your lies. You constantly conflate any criticism of the actions of the government of Israel with "Jew hatred" as you now like to call it. Obviously anti-Semite has lost its sting due to grotesque over use. This conflation is the same as if you were to call me a racist for criticizing the government of Robert Mugabe. If I don't like his policies it must be because I hate blacks. Now you claim that Abbas demanding a sovereign Palestinian state does not have Israelis living in it actually means that "no Jews will be allowed to live in the West Bank". You know, if you want to change peoples minds on this issue, you would be better off not accusing those who disagree with you of being Anti-semites or Jew Haters. It adds nothing to your arguments. Unlike yourself I am not a racial supremacist. I simply don't like the idea of millions of Palestinians living under a military occupation that has lasted over 40 years. Its an absolute disgrace that no Australian should be supportive of. Posted by Rhys Jones, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 7:34:53 PM
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3 more attacks
SYRIA demandsd investigation The Syrian government is demanding that the United Nations immediately investigate three alleged chemical attacks carried out by rebel groups on the outskirts of Damascus last week, Syria’s envoy to the UN said. Ambassador Bashar Jaafari said he had requested UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon that the team of experts currently in Damascus investigating an alleged use of chemical weapons last week also investigate these other attacks. The attacks took place on August 22, 24 and 25 in Jobar, Sahnaya, and al-Bahariya, Bashar Jaafari told journalists Wednesday. The “militants” used toxic chemical gas against the Syrian army, http://rt.com/news/syria-investigate-un-chemical-116/ [re the fauix march..the in-crowd own..it all via a toxic fiatised lie..toxic money http://12160.info/video/author-ron-macdonald-they-own-it-all-including-you-by-means-of?xg_source=activity the other march..to war http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/the-neocon-march-on-damascus/63717/ the old rummy..talking of 911..secretly recorded Rumsfeld On Tape..Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oLuTQEL3ec we are still marching on Saturday as most of us got two jobs..yet no fear http://intellihub.com/2013/08/27/war-syria-rallies-happening-saturday-august-31-worldwide/ no war powers ..mr president http://www.unitedliberty.org/articles/14746-no-the-war-powers-act-does-not-authorize-unilateral-executive-preemptive-military-act http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/28/us-syria-crisis-israel-defences-idUSBRE97R0MQ20130828 Posted by one under god, Thursday, 29 August 2013 6:34:10 AM
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To #one under god
As you prattle on - Jews in Israel are doing this: 1.A bionic contact lens for the blind that receives the electrical signals from an image and transmits them to the wearer’s cornea. 2.Two solutions for corneal edema, which afflicts two million new patients every year. 3. A 100MW sea wave power plant along the coastline of Conakry – the capital of Guinea. To #Rhys Jones - spreader of the myth "the idea of millions of Palestinians living under a military occupation that has lasted over 40 years." Looks like you qualify as well for some good news 1. A partnership between Israeli and Palestinian Arab companies to produce eco-friendly salt seasoning from the Dead Sea. 2. The new industrial park near Bethlehem, being built with support from France, the PA and Israel. 3. Palestinian Arabs working for Israelis in Judea and Samaria increased by 4,000 in the second quarter of 2013. The 20,000 Arabs now working for the Israelis in their supposedly "illegal settlements" receive double the average PLO government wage. Posted by david singer, Thursday, 29 August 2013 1:24:14 PM
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Commit a War Crime to Cover Up a War Crime?
Phoney Syria Poison Gas Story Planted By Mossad in the Western Media.. http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/commit-a-war-crime-to-cover-up-a-war-crime-phoney-syria-poison-gas-story-planted-by-mossad-in-the-western-media/63796/ This is where it all started: The Israeli intelligence front the Debkafile, which is the source of the story that implicated the Assad government and/or its military in the gas attack on East Ghouta and now forms the basis for the war on Syria. http://investmentwatchblog.com/gerald-celente-w-jeff-rense-the-only-thing-keeping-global-economys-alive-is-govt-money-printing/ re your..earlier point feeding coma patients* <<Ariel Sharon,..the former Israeli prime minister who has been in a coma..for seven years,>>> http://www.google.com.au/search?q=israeli+sharon+pm+coma my point.. *sharon..he has earned his rest is this...how you treat your own? god will..be impressed..[not*] [by their deeds will we know them] \ expose continues http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5984&page=0 Posted by one under god, Thursday, 29 August 2013 1:29:43 PM
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To #mac aka Russell Walton
So you want OLO to ban me and wondering where the Palestinian propagandists are Has it occurred to you that maybe they have no answer to my articles? If they did they would be arguing hard and fast. Like most of the posts you and others make to my articles - they are not taking issue with the facts or thrust of those articles - choosing merely to attack me personally and demonise Jews in the process. So here is your serve of what these demon Jews are doing: 1.Israeli humanitarian organization Tevel b'Tzedek has been working in impoverished Nepalese villages for four years. It has installed chimneys and biogas systems to reduce the number of deaths from smoke pollution. 2. Even the BBC reports Israel’s help for wounded Syrians treating them in Israeli hospitals 3. Israel’s Save A Child’s Heart are currently repairing the hearts of 22 international children, including three Iraqis and seven from the Palestinian Authority. Isn't it amazing that the Jews you and others continue to demonize and delegitimize are doing other things besides running a claimed apartheid state and practising claimed ethnic cleansing against a population supposedly under military occupation for the last 46 years? Offered more in 1937 and 1947 than they now claim they are prepared to accept, having not grabbed the opportunity to get their state between 1950-1967 when not one Jew lived in the West Bank and Gaza, having refused to talk to Israel between 1967-1993, rejecting offers in excess of 90% of the West Bank and Gaza in 2000/2001 and 2008 - there seems to be no end to the demands of the Palestinian Arabs until Israel vanishes off the face of the map. If all the death and suffering sustained by Jews and Arabs during the last 90 years because the Arabs were not - and still are not - prepared to accept Jews reconstituting their National Home in 0.01% of the liberated Ottoman Empire makes sense to you - it doesn't to me. Posted by david singer, Thursday, 29 August 2013 1:36:08 PM
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while you prattle on
your israel/mates did this,.. sounds more like israel than some 'towel heaD IN A WAR ZONE The New York Times, Twitter and the Huffington Post lost control of some of their websites after hackers supporting the Syrian government..lol..breached the Australian internet company..that manages many major website addresses. A "malicious external attack"..[COMMING FROMnear?..ISRAEL? <<on the reseller..of internet company Melbourne IT..saw the New York Times website go down..for the second time in less than a month... WHO DUN..THE LAST ONE? Melbourne IT, the New York Times' domain name registrar, was used early on Wednesday morning to access and modify the details of the newspaper's website. A domain name registrar is a company that manages internet domain names. The New York Times said the registrar itself was attacked, with many pointing the finger at the hacker network Syrian Electronic Army. <<..But Melbourne IT said credentials..of one of its resellers (the username and password)..were used to access a reseller account on Melbourne IT's systems. The company had acted to fix..the problem and change the reseller's credentials..once they were aware of the attack. Resellers are the middleman between registrar and companies purchasing internet domains...They are responsible*..for updating and renewing clients' web records. Melbourne IT chief executive Theo Hnarakis, who announced on Tuesday he would step down by the end of the year, OHH right*..<<told Fairfax Media ..[got it] he wasn't prepared to name the reseller..but said it was based in the US... wonder who watches the watchers? i know mossad does extensive work training many govt security agencies,..[*plus store the records]..[ie all them EMAILS..collectedby the new security agencies[writing your spin] who watches over all..the email..instorage? allour email traffic is being stored..by who..knows where? it was info IN..an email..to usa! stored by mossasd*..intel source GET IT? thats 6 more for me Posted by one under god, Thursday, 29 August 2013 1:40:50 PM
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David, you catalogue of good things being done by Israel and Israeli Jews just highlights why we get sick of your Zionist moaning. We know there are good things happening in Israel and good people of good intent living there. Many of them oppose the settlements and the Orthodox leeches on Israeli society.
Posted by Candide, Thursday, 29 August 2013 2:11:33 PM
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David, The idea that as long as a nation does some good things, no one should criticise the bad things they do, does not make any sense to me at least.
I wonder if you apply the same logic to Nazi Germany. German scientists made all manner of new and exciting discoveries. Hitler managed to pull his country out of a severe economic recession and restore the pride and vigour of the nation. Should we therefore ignore or excuse the holocaust? The fact that the Israeli occupation is less brutal than certain other military occupations does not make it right. The fact that there is some limited cooperation between the two civil societies does not mean there is no occupation either. You really do live in a fantasy world David. Posted by Rhys Jones, Thursday, 29 August 2013 2:55:40 PM
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To #Rhys Jones
You state: "The idea that as long as a nation does some good things, no one should criticise the bad things they do, does not make any sense to me at least." You are entitled to criticise - but your motives and intent go far deeper as expressed by you in the following remark: "Your religious beliefs do not give you a right to take someone elses land. Using it to Justify stealing someone elses land is the same as a fundamentalist Muslim saying their religion justifies killing infidels. Your bizzare fantasy that you have been given great tracts of land by your imaginary god are about as reasonable as the 20th century German belief that they were a superior race and should therefore control the world. Look where that led. Posted by Rhys Jones, Friday, 7 December 2012 5:00:24 PM" No mention of: (i) the defeat of the 400 years old Ottoman Empire in World War 1 and the allocation of 99.99% of the conquered Ottoman territory for Arab self determination and just 0.01% for Jewish self determination (ii) The unanimous endorsement of that arrangement by every member state of the League of Nations with the creation of the Mandate for Palestine. (iii) The 1937 Peel Partition Plan and the 1947 UN Partition Plan recommending a Jewish State and an Arab state. How come Peel, no member State in the League of Nations and the United Nations were totally ignorant of the fact that the land had been stolen by the Jews as you smugly proclaim in your four line unsubstantiated throw away? You are a Jew hater trying to masquerade as some kind of reasonable guy who just wants to criticise Israeli policies - not demonise or delegitimize the Jews who make up the majority of its population. Sorry - I don't believe you. To #Candide You are no better in your use of the term "the Orthodox leeches on Israeli society." Are you prepared to withdraw that remark and also tell Rhys Jones off for the above remarks he made on 7 December 2012? Posted by david singer, Thursday, 29 August 2013 4:58:08 PM
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This is real nutcase territory. To a comment by Rhys Jones which is in effect a statement that nobody - not Germans and not Jews - has any valid claim to exceptional genetic entitlement beyond the norm, the Israel agent David Singer responds with a list of total irrelevancies that purport to show that Jews do in fact have special, exceptional, entitlement invented by colonialists and that Rhys Jones denying it is doing so from deeper motives of . . . .(wait for it). . . . . antiSemitism.
There most definitely needs to be a public debate over whether Australia should or should not continue to give the slightest respect to a racist experiment even more squalid than Apartheid South Africa (in which the Boer overlords at least belonged to the country even though they claimed they didn't have to share it). Posted by EmperorJulian, Thursday, 29 August 2013 5:55:18 PM
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Rhys Jones,
Yes, Nazi Germany was the most technologically advanced nation in Europe and in advance of the US in many areas of engineering and far ahead of the UK. Nazi Germany produced the first synthetic antibiotics---sulfa drugs and the ubiquitous "jerry can". An equally nasty regime, the Soviet Union, pioneered space exploration. The Trollsinger is grasping at straws. David Singer, No critic of Israel could possibly wish that you were banned. Russell Walton Posted by mac, Thursday, 29 August 2013 6:10:01 PM
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Emperor Julian, again I beseech you to not engage with the Singer. It is such a waste of time. He is a fanatic and he has no interest in anything that doesn't advance the imperial Israeli cause.
Singer has a number of puppets on his strings. He plays them, one against the other, week by week. And all the time he is promoting the right of Israel to develop a racist, apartheid nation, a nuclear-armed one, one plonked right in the middle of a Muslim region. We who think should get rid of the Singer. He is mischievous and duplicitous. His agenda is disgusting. And while he tells us of the glories of Israel, Israel is committing war crimes and atrocities and stealing land which belongs to the Palestinians, etc. Emperor and others who are playing Singer's game, please don't. He needs to be sent to Coventry where he can't further undermine human values, the few that are left. Posted by David G, Thursday, 29 August 2013 6:19:27 PM
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David G,
I disagree, silence is complicity, and I also don't like to be characterised as a "puppet", Singer is an incompetent propagandist, that should be obvious. If you can't participate in the debate that's your problem. Posted by mac, Thursday, 29 August 2013 6:37:29 PM
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please lets not talk of censure..respect*
i iike peter..he has passion.. however we might think..it to be..miss-directed.. he really holds his heart on his sleeve..and i can respect that. he also replies peoples posts [i respect that] he puts in real extra effort..to educate [i appreciate that] ok he avoids many points thats his right he maybe..right in so many..minutia..little detail yet still..miss the big picture..[or we are]..but were talkinmg[thats great] you see the script was written..differently.. by now [peter may not even know..but..bombs were supposed to be doing their thing thursday was to be the lay down..mizare the website thing [done via a captured email/intercept]..was to be the cream..on top we must expect..a little shell shock.. or at least sympathy this nice guy..has just been gutted.. by the state he clearly loves..and the world yearns to know oh..the rejoicing when.. ALL*..the descendants of abraham..unite..in brotherly loving peace..unite with one heart..the messiahs return..[ once we LET sharon..mediate for your beloved israel...on.the statehood's achievements..as well as her sins] ps i..know somewhere in there is 3 more points dont stop being PROUD..our people have much to be proud of [but also visa versa].. but heck..ONLY..god is..perfect and were only human. lets exchange facts.. so that all..between..us here*..at least..is truth* bless your passion..my brother for what is salt..that has lost its taste Posted by one under god, Thursday, 29 August 2013 8:17:13 PM
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OUG,
Could you please supply an English translation for your last comments? Who is "Peter"? Posted by mac, Thursday, 29 August 2013 9:30:27 PM
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I think the main consensus espoused here is pretty clear.
'David Singer is a RACIST' Lock, stock and full smoking barrel, no if's, no but's, just simply a RACIST zionist body lacking any of the Emperor's clothes. David, never responds in kind, he is hell bent of seeing the establishment of an Ersatz Jewish nation on Arab held lands. No one with any sense of moral or ethical value can uphold British and the League of Nation's mandates that are now so irrelevant to history it is beyond funny. David is only interested in one thing........that being the ever growing nation of Israel in a land it has no rite to exist in. History is littered with the debris of nations and peoples displaced whether by religion, war, famine, environmental challenges, yet David always returns to the false mantra of the 'Chosen Ones' a completely false apparition based on a falsehood, wrapped in an enigma, and finally based on a blatant lie. Will he ever stop posting, no of course not, he is a RACIST and this is what they do. Get used to it and work toward subverting his apartheid mantra dream. David, wake up, eat your fruit-loops and realise you are dreaming! Posted by Geoff of Perth, Thursday, 29 August 2013 11:28:25 PM
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David, here are three little things to ponder while you espouse the validity of how great Jewish people are changing the world for the better.
Not all Jews support the Apartheid state being progressed by the Israeli government Not all Jews support your views on 'Jordan' Not all Jews (those whom in the majority live outside Israel) support your racist views, and then there is the real view of most modern democratic rational people who see the truth......I.e: Israel is currently generating genocide on a basically unarmed Arab people, barricaded in a land with little hope of change, whether economic, social or political in nature. Israel, through its proxy government support (the US) is hell bent on the destruction of any nation capable of protecting itself from myopic racist Israeli foreign policy and finally, Having used up most of any remaining soul searching and sympathy based on the historic (1933-1945) genocide of Jews by the Nazi party, have now taken over the Nazi mantra and applied it well and truly toward the indigenous Arab members of the ME who currently reside within, near or are neighbours to the abhorrent nation of Israel. If a person could parachute out of a snakes ars. you would be the first out of the hole, you really make me feel ill! Posted by Geoff of Perth, Thursday, 29 August 2013 11:38:42 PM
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Spot on, Geoff.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Thursday, 29 August 2013 11:44:18 PM
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yes mac..
peter..[the rock...corner stone..means david singer's israel peter refers to the role..his state..could/should have been..the corner stone of the one true good[god] im..missing singer.. i try to respect..his states mental state hoping they..dont act from fear frustration nor fury we just have a right to expect more from..those who chose..to be called gods people..at least stop..ADULTERATING,the truth..regarding the ONLY..1 true living loving good..[g-d] ONLY..knowable via..good loving service..*to other yes INVENTION..is in thy dna [think on.. just exactly...how so much..*invention? just a tad..too much Posted by one under god, Friday, 30 August 2013 11:02:08 AM
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To #Geoff of Perth, Emperor Julian, mac aka Russell Walton, Rhys Jones,OUG
You make up a remarkable band with your never ending cacophony of hate falsely demonising and denigrating Israel as practising apartheid and ethnic cleansing on the powerless and occupied Palestinian Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza. Your lead singers - Hamas, the PLO, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade,DFLP, PFLP, and the Popular Resistance Committees - must be laughing their heads off at having recruited you to believe their vile racist and ethnic cleansing propaganda. Have you noticed there is no group among them called "Palestinians Speaking Up for Democracy" or "Palestinians Claiming the Vote" Perhaps you might each care to comment on this news item that appeared on 7 August: "The office of the Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT), a part of the IDF, reported this week that last Wednesday and Thursday, two groups of Arab farmers totalling 60 people left Gaza in order to attend an agricultural seminar in northern Israel, designed to advance the Gaza agricultural sector. Farmers, heads of agricultural associations and merchants had arrived at the conference sponsored by Origins Seeds Company, a company which exports cucurbitacae (pumpkins, squashes, etc.) and field cultivation seeds to 17 world countries, including Gaza and the Palestinian Authority areas in Judea and Samaria. Last year, COGAT's website said, “the farmers had purchased seeds from the company and were pleased with their quality, and so it was important for them to attend the seminar and learn more about the product they're using. During the seminar, the farmers completed several workshops on cultivation methods, planting schedules, soil preparation, proper use of irrigation and fertilizer and disinfestations methods. “In addition, the farmers focused primarily on watermelons, and had stated that this year, owing to the training programs conducted frequently in Israel; growers had achieved unprecedented crop yields – 11 tons of produce for each decare of cultivated fields – A twofold increase compared with the preceding year.” Your individual comments on this news item would be greatly appreciated. Truth will always triumph over hatred. Posted by david singer, Friday, 30 August 2013 12:58:45 PM
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david..<<..Your lead singers - Hamas, the PLO, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade,DFLP, PFLP, and the Popular Resistance Committees - must be laughing their heads off at having recruited you to believe their vile racist and ethnic cleansing propaganda.>>..
oh dear.. david....its pot kettle you forget..that at dawn/'dusk..both a black/white thread..BOTH 'look' grey as jesus said..by their deeds..will we know them but the list of known/knowns..WHO TOO BELIEVE..that..<<..their vile racist and ethnic cleansing propaganda.>>..is kosha.. when by the provable fact..it aint but..please dont stop..listing the good things ignore us revealing the rest which..is bigger.. MUCH LONGER..than your list or not.. ps NOT*..feeding prisoners ..isnt kosha allowing ..some..to grow..well mate planting costs..money upfront then shall we see ..who reaps the harvest? ..or which settlers sabotage the crop which raises the water access issue i hear they..are forced to drink..raw sewerage run off from a few illegal settlement's.. will you..*assure they reap their harvest will you allow them water? Posted by one under god, Friday, 30 August 2013 1:56:14 PM
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"Truth will always triumph over hatred," says the Singer loftily!
Given that his weekly articles rarely contain truth but they always promote hatred against the Palestinians (in a variety of devious ways), his grandiloquent statement seems rather empty. What OLO should do is to sponsor the Singer so that, incognito, he goes to the West Bank and lives for a month with the Palestinians and endures what they have for sixty years. Methinks his attitude might change. Does anyone agree? Posted by David G, Friday, 30 August 2013 3:41:26 PM
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David, I agree, but how about for the rest of his life as he seems to want so much for Israel to expand into lands they are not entitled to. I don't think he would last long pontificating on his soap-box over there!
I'll even chip $5 to give him a good send-off. Geoff Posted by Geoff of Perth, Friday, 30 August 2013 4:48:11 PM
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Look, Geoff, I'll even put in fifty dollars! To be free of Singer and his endless Israeli malarkey for a month would surely be bliss.
For a year, it would be heaven! Posted by David G, Friday, 30 August 2013 5:45:41 PM
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I'd go along with that, David and Geoff.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Friday, 30 August 2013 7:59:37 PM
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there have been some interesting..developments david
as you..your lot..think to know* <<A reporter with Israel’s most widely read newspaper..has been told by defense establishment officials..that a US-led attack on Syria will begin on Saturday..and end when Barack Obama meets Vladimir Putin on Wednesday.>> i trust your..both wrong http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5984#170948 i trust..it ends her KNOW*.. the lack of questioning HOW COME* ..the *alternate pm.phony tony isnt being deluged..with the same INTERNATIONAL..questions..as the current pm.. cause thats his weakness and media SEEKS out the weak yet..in 8 days HE WILL BE PM..*!* and look..like a fool..**!** cause the media never TESTED him..! nor asked him..what he is going to do? fool me once,,shame on you fool me twice..shame on..*me lets get back to..my 12 good things.. from israel.. due to me from you.. come on brother..give..more great things you..have so many.. [the laws of karma..need balancing http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15257&page=0 Posted by one under god, Saturday, 31 August 2013 9:06:13 AM
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To all those who would try to bribe me to go away ...
... Forget it. Spend your money getting someone to explain how those 60 Gazan farmers could be attending that seminar in Israel run by Jewish demons and oppressors - that you have failed to address... or why Syrians from the massacre being perpetrated in their country for the last two years are being treated in Israeli hospitals by those hated racist and ethnic cleansing Jews ... You are all probably unaware that scientists at the Weizmann Institute of Science have discovered that people who have a hard time turning off their response to stress may be missing a special set of proteins. According to the findings of a new study led by Dr. Alon Chen at the Weizmann Institute's Neurobiology Department, however, there is solid evidence that three related proteins are responsible for the body's ability to turn off the stress response. Hopefully this cure to help you guys will be on sale shortly. You will certainly need a dose or two after you read the following: "Since Save A Child's Heart was founded in (Israel)1995, some 3,200 children from 46 developing nations have undergone lifesaving heart surgery.More than half are from the Palestinian Authority, Jordan, Iraq, Morocco and Syria." Why would a nation of ethnic cleansers - according to you lot - act in this out of character manner? Hope this latest news does not cause you too much stress... To #Rhys Jones and #candide Have you gone missing in action or is your response to stress to turn off completely - which certainly cannot be harmful. I am still waiting for your response to my post on Thursday, 29 August 2013 4:58:08 PM If you have decided to call it a day - I will understand. Posted by david singer, Saturday, 31 August 2013 3:18:42 PM
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Singer, in your zeal to show just how worthy the Israeli Jews are, perhaps you have forgotten the bombing of the Gaza Strip during Operation Cast Lead.
There were more than 1400 Palestinians killed including, if my memory serves me properly, 400 kids. Only nine or ten Jews were killed! Of course, other Palestinians received phosphorous burns which go right through to the bone. Others starved or died from lack of medicines and food because of the blockade which follow the bombing and shelling. Clearly, what Israel giveth, it taketh away. Instead of filling OLO with your duplicitous, racist meandering, why don't you write a weekly article for Haaretz, one that tries to convince the Israelis to give up their murdering, genocidal, imperial, brutal ways? Finally you would be doing something useful! Posted by David G, Saturday, 31 August 2013 3:52:23 PM
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"Since Save A Child's Heart was founded in (Israel)1995, some 3,200 children from 46 developing nations have undergone lifesaving heart surgery.More than half are from the Palestinian Authority, Jordan, Iraq, Morocco and Syria."
Yep. Good people do good things. Bad people do bad things. So do bad states. By the way, the groundbreaking first heart surgery was carried out by Dr Christiaan Barnard in Apartheid South Africa. And occasionally a decent person would help a blind old lady across a busy street in Third Reich Berlin. The world was much the cleaner though from the dismantlement of the Boer Republic of South Africa and the German Third Reich. Posted by EmperorJulian, Saturday, 31 August 2013 4:12:51 PM
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Hear Hear Emperor Julian, well said that man!
I have upped my stake to $100 and a free BBQ and some snags, at least when they get rid of Singer, from his soap-box they will have something to eat and a means to cook it too! Geoff Posted by Geoff of Perth, Saturday, 31 August 2013 4:37:10 PM
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Speaking of Carr, he has announced that it's all the way with Barack the Beast who has set his murdering sights on Syria!
Yeah, Australian servility has reached a new depth. We are already subservient to the Israelis and the Yanks, which some say are one and the same! Even craven Britain voted against attacking Syria. How low can Australia go? The bottom is still a long way off! Posted by David G, Saturday, 31 August 2013 7:11:07 PM
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David Singer,
I certainly wouldn't try to have you banned from the site, you're a very eloquent advocate for the Palestinian cause, however I think you need a holiday. BTW, the Nazis developed the first operational jet fighters and bombers and the first cruise missiles and ballistic missiles, all very useful to the Zionist war machine. Posted by mac, Saturday, 31 August 2013 8:29:55 PM
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David Singer. Tip my hat to you on this one... 9 pages! :))
Posted by Prompete, Sunday, 1 September 2013 7:53:00 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Sharon
what..could have..*been in 2004–5..Sharon orchestrated..Israel's unilateral disengagement from the Gaza-Strip...Facing stiff opposition.to this policy..within the Likud,..in November 2005..he left Likud..to form a new Kadima party. His stroke..occurred..a few months before..he had been expected..to win a new election on Sept. 4,..Israeli Prime Minister..Benjamin Netanyahu attends the marriage ceremony..of the daughter of Eli Yishai,..the interior minister..and chairman of the ultra-Orthodox Shas party...While giving a short speech,..Netanyahu refers to one of his predecessors,..*Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. “May his memory be blessed,”..says Netanyahu. The audience..is silent,..looking both stunned and embarrassed. Netanyahu..quickly catches..his mistake.. and corrects..himself:..“May he live long...” The gaffe was revealing. Most Israelis..have forgotten..Ariel Sharon,..even though..he is still technically..*alive. After suffering..a stroke on Jan.4,2006, Sharon plunged..into a deep coma...Since then..he has been kept on life support at Sheba Hospital in Tel Aviv...He is 83 years old. He has a single room..that is not located..in an intensive care unit. In six years..and nine-and-a-half months,..he has not given a single sign of waking up,..but..*has he had no major complications either.>>.. i recall..every 7 years..=total cellular replacement not one..'origonal cell'..can remain..thats sad “He has a sturdy body,..but his case is exceptional,”..says a doctor. “Many patients would have died..of an infection by now...Not him;..he's still holding on. This situation..may continue for a long time, but he has..*absolutely no chance..of regaining conscience.”>> LET HIM..GO? <<..The fate of Ariel Sharon..has been kept silent/for years word..does not get past any doctors,..politicians..bloggers..or members of his family...In September 2009,..the spokesman for Sheba hospital..had only this to say..to Le Monde: “The only information..I can provide you is that his condition is stable..and unchanged. For more information,..please contact the members of his family.” “If this were anyone else,”..says the discreet but well-placed doctor,..“they would already have let him die. Sharon is kept alive..because it is the will..of his family,..but [the situation]..is… pathetic.” What may look like aggressive therapy..is actually not dictated by religious reasons:..Ariel Sharon,..like his parents and his sons, Gilad and Omri,..is not at all religious. “His family..is very attached to him... One might think..that it's irrational,..but there it/is,”.says the physician. Since then,..the Israeli/press..has lost interest in Sharon..>> Posted by one under god, Sunday, 1 September 2013 9:02:00 PM
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On his way to the hospital,..he lost consciousness..but regained it shortly thereafter.
Doctors continued..to try to find out..how the blood clot..got to the brain,..and an echocardiogram revealed a small hole..in his heart, To prevent another clot..from traveling to the brain..from this hole, Sharon was treated..with enoxaparin,..an anticoagulant drug.[55] Sharon's treatment..with enoxaparin received criticism,..as anticoagulation could heavily*..*increase the risk..of brain hemorrhage,..particularly given his diagnosis..of CAA. Sharon..had reportedly..wanted to leave..but the hospital*..wanted him to stay..another day...He was released..from the hospital after two days...continued to take..two shots of enoxaparin daily, and a cardiac catheterization..procedure to repair..the hole in his heart was scheduled for 5 January 2006. Second stroke[ On 4 January 2006, in the evening before his catheterization, Sharon suffered a second..a massive cerebral hemorrhage..(bleeding in his brain)... When..the paramedic inspected him,..he realized that Sharon was having a stroke,..and suggested that he be immediately*..evacuated to the nearest hospital: However,..Sharon's son Gilad ..contacted one of Sharon's personal physicians,..Shlomo Segev,..and Segev told the paramedic*..to not do anything,*..and that he was on his way. Sharon was carried..to the ambulance..on the scene..by his security staff,*..but the stretcher..did not fit the ambulance,..and it took twenty minutes..to get him in. Just as..the ambulance was leaving,..Segev arrived at the scene and climbed into the ambulance...Despite earlier instructions..that in case of an emergency,..Sharon was to be rushed.to Soroka Medical Center,..the ambulance instead..headed for Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital,..almost an hour's drive away. Ten minutes..into the journey,..a Shin Bet officer contacted the ambulance..and suggested airlifting Sharon to hospital..by helicopter...Segev and Gilad claimed it was unnecessary,..and Segev and the accompanying paramedic..feared that carrying him to a helicopter..would worsen his condition.[58]>>>. the rest..gets more revealing no wonder..no-one mentions him..anymore On 13January,..doctors began weaning..Sharon off sedative..Sharon failed to waken..even after..he stopped receiving sedatives.[66] On 15January,Sharon underwent..a tracheotomy to help*..wean him off a ventilator,..and three days later, a breathing tube ..*had to be replaced..due to technical problems. On 1February,..a feeding tube..was inserted into his stomach, indicating..that doctors were preparing him for long-term care.[67] On 11 February 2006,..doctors performed..emergency surgery..to remove 50 cm of Sharon's large intestine.. the..poor old digger* Posted by one under god, Sunday, 1 September 2013 9:20:27 PM
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David Singer, while you are pontificating about the good of Israel and its people, perhaps you can advise if you intend to add the outline below as one of your three 'good' things Israeli people have done:
The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission has charged Amos Yaron, then a commanding general of the Israeli army as follows: Charge: The Associate Prosecutor of the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission pursuant to Article 7 of the Charter of the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission charges: Amos Yaron Individually, for WAR CRIMES, CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, AND GENOCIDE as follows: The defendant Amos Yaron perpetrated War Crimes, Crimes Against Humanity, and Genocide in his capacity as the Commanding Israeli General in military control of the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Israeli occupied Lebanon in September of 1982 when he knowingly facilitated and permitted the large-scale Massacre of the Residents of those two camps in violation of the Hague Regulations on Land Warfare of 1907; the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949; the 1948 Genocide Convention; the Nuremberg Charter (1945), the Nuremberg Judgment (1946), and the Nuremberg Principles (1950); customary international law, jus cogens, the Laws of War, and International Humanitarian Law; and their related provisions set forth in articles 9, 10, and 11 of the Charter of the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission. Let's see if you are happy to comment on this David, I am sure you won't of course, because this does not fit into your narrow little narrative on the history of Israel, or does it? Geoff Posted by Geoff of Perth, Monday, 2 September 2013 11:18:31 AM
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To #Geoff of Perth
Wikipedia makes the following remarks about your high sounding "Commission" "The former United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Independence of Judges and Lawyers, Param Cumaraswamy, has suggested the tribunal is a private enterprise with no legal basis and questions its legitimacy. The tribunal does not have a UN mandate or recognition, no power to order arrests or impose sentences, and it is unclear that its verdicts have any but symbolic significance. A statement on the tribunal's website states: "In the event the tribunal convicts any of the accused, the only sanction is that the name of the guilty person will be entered in the Commission’s Register of War Criminals and publicized worldwide." Seems as though this "Commission" is a lot of hot air - just like you. Shucks only one Jew - and for something alleged to have occurred in 1982? According to you every Israeli Jew should be charged. This Commission is falling down on its job. Slink back under your rock of anonymity and wallow in your Jew-hatred. Three more items for you to ponder - as you seek to denigrate and delegitimise Israel and its people: 1. Scientists at Tel Aviv University have found that heart cells integrated with nano-fibers of gold improve electrical signaling between cells to strengthen the contraction of cardiac muscle -and are using this to create cardiac patches for replacing damaged heart tissues. 2. At Ben-Gurion University researchers discovered that methylphenidate - used to treat ADHD sufferers - is also successful in reducing the risk of falling by the elderly. 3. Tel Aviv Professor Illana Gozes has created a new peptide (short protein) called NAP which she has found has benefits for Alzheimer’s, ALS and Parkinson’s sufferers. Pity your "Commission" doesn't donate it's funds from wherever they come to Israeli institutions doing such pioneering humanitarian research - which may one day save your life. Maybe you should state here right now that you will refuse any life saving cure if it was discovered iin Israel. You can even start a register for your Jew- hating friends to sign. Posted by david singer, Monday, 2 September 2013 12:21:54 PM
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Poor old Singer! No one believes him! Why doesn't he just take his bat and go home.
Did anyone notice that the casualties from Operation Cast Lead are almost identical to those in the Syrian Gas Attack! Yet Kerry last week described Syria's (?) use of chemical weapons as "a moral obscenity" and called Syrian President Bashar al-Assad "a thug and a murderer." If that is so then what Israel did in the Gaza strip was also a 'moral obscenity' and Netanyahu is also 'a thug and a murderer'! Of course, the U.S. has killed far more people than either of them so what does that make Obama? Posted by David G, Monday, 2 September 2013 1:02:25 PM
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To David G
Looks like you need another fix to help you overcome your obsessive hatred of Israel and the Jews that make up 80% of its population. Here are a few ideas for you to contemplate: 1. An iPhone and iPad app that converts news stories into videos. Instead of squinting at the small print on a screen, an automated voice reads the story with accompanying related still photos, videos, and graphics. 2. Water filters that will prevent the spread of invasive marine creatures through ships’ ballast water. 3. A smart beer tap that monitors the amount dispensed to each customer. Drinkers can pour themselves any quantity of beer at any time, no longer suffering a warm pint. Wonder how these irksome Jews find the time to be so innovative whilst fighting so many wars and warding off evil people with views like yours who only want to see them driven into the sea. BTW - what do you claim were the number of "Casualties" in Operation Cast Lead and the latest Syrian chemical warfare attack on 21 August? Seems as though the world has been prepared to sit back and see at least 100000 Syrians killed in the last two and a half years and some seven million people displaced from their homes as a result of conventional warfare - and are prepared to continue to not lift a hand if people keep getting killed by conventional means. What about Libya, Iraq, Central African Republic, Yemen, Afghanistan, Egypt, Darfur, Rwanda? Can you refer me to any posts written by you on the senseless slaughter caused in these countries? You would be better off getting one of these new i pads and pouring yourself a beer from one of these new smart taps than continuing your hate filled delusional anti-Jewish rants. Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 10:43:00 AM
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http://www.google.com.au/search?q=einsteina+plagerist
* The Olinto De Pretto’s original formula E= MC2 first time appeared in science magazine in 1903. "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." -- Albert Einstein How frequent is scientific fraud? This question is somewhat difficult to be answered..in its simplest form since undetected fraud is by definition immeasurable. The amount of scientific research,..the number and size of scientific organizations..in the world are so vast that no method would suffice to give a clear picture of fraud..and detect it if it has occurred anywhere. yet might..is write victors write the histry As Brian Martin says also:”In this messy process of doing science, there are no red lights which flash when someone does something 'fraudulent'“. E= MC2, the equivalence of matter and energy had previously been suggested by French mathematician Henri Poincare and Dutch physicist Hendrik Lorentz. Now historians also credit them while anticipating many of Einstein's discoveries but Einstein himself never gave them credit in the bibliography of his papers. The most recognizable equation of all time is E=mc2. It is attributed by convention to be the sole province of Albert Einstein (1905). However, the conversion of matter into energy and energy into matter was known to Sir Isaac Newton ("Gross bodies and light are convertible into one another...", 1704). The equation can be attributed to S. Tolver Preston (1875), to Jules Henri Poincaré (1900; according to Brown, 1967) and to Olinto De Pretto (1904) before Einstein. Since Einstein never correctly derived E=mc2 (Ives, 1952), there appears nothing to connect the equation with anything original by Einstein. Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 11:17:39 AM
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http://www.jewwatch.com/
## Jewish Entertainment Jews on Stage, Screen, Musicians, Artists, Writers, etc., The Jews Who Control Hollywood, NEWS Monopoly, Jewish Faces, Elvis Presley's Jewish Heritage, The Official Certification by a Rabbi of Marilyn Monroe's Conversion to Judaism, Marc Bell of Penthouse Magazine, Jewish Controlled Press | The 6 Jewish Companies That Own 96% of the World's Media | TV Networks, Film Studios, National Public Radio, TV Studios, Newspapers, Magazines, Publishing Houses, Who Rules America, Reports & Historical Sources, Arab View of Jewish Media, NEWS Monopoly..., Jewish Controlled Press Lies About Current Events, Viacom, Jews of Hollywood, Jewish Media Lies 1967 Six-Day Israeli-Arab War Was Not Started by Egypt invading Israel on Yom Kippur as Reported in American-World-Jewish-Zionist Presses but Began with Israel Bombing All Egyptian War Planes as they Sat on the Ground, ADL's False Demonization of The Serbs As Nazis, In 1947 War Israel Forcibly Removed 700,000 Arabs While Claiming They Left At the Orders of Arab Leaders---Then Israelis Stole All of Their Homes and Land and Property (AP) Jewish Mind Control Mechanisms Judaism, Marxism, Communism, Liberalism, Civil Rights, Genocide Via Immigration, Anarchism, Freudianism, Millennium, Atheism, Feminism, Homosexuality, The New Left (1960-Present), Jewish IQ, Eugenics, Zionism, Judeo-Christianity / Zionist-Christianity, How to Resist Jewish Defamation Techniques, Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 11:23:02 AM
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To #One under God
Enthralling revelations that should make you sit back in awe at the wondrous achievements of about 14 million Jews worldwide - but Jew-haters like you can only hate,hate,hate.... Maybe you should try and convert to Judaism and get with the strength - rather than trying to carry on the thousands of years old tradition of calling for the extermination of every Jew on this earth. What have you achieved in your life OUG besides writing unintelligible and wacky poetry lines that even your fellow Jew-haters cannot decipher? You don't even have the courage to tell us your real name - pathetic really. Here are another three Jewish ideas for you to froth at the mouth about: 1. 30,000 of Israel’s 3.5 million visitors in 2012 came to get medical treatment at Israel’s top health institutions. Treatments include IVF, brain diseases, laser surgery and heart bypasses. 2. IceSense3 cryoablation cancer treatment is to be covered by US medical insurance giant HCSC. Vast numbers of US patients will now be able to have breast tumors removed by the minimally invasive ultrasound-targeted freezing process developed by Israel’s IceCure Medical. 3. Israel’s Protalix Biotherapeutics has entered into a supply and technology transfer agreement with Brazil for its Gaucher treatment Uplyso. Brazil’s Health Minister said he was pleased to be able to improve the health of Brazilian citizens impacted by the rare disorder. If you had your way - humanity would be the big loser. But that is obviously the last thing you care about in this vilest of Jew-hating and utterly disgusting posts that I have yet encountered. Go crawl back under your rock of anonymity and rot in hell. That will equally apply to all your anonymous fellow posters who don't distance themselves from your extremely racist and Jew-hating comments and voice their disapproval right here - and soon. Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:52:20 PM
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david..<<Enthralling revelations
that should make you sit back in awe at the wondrous achievements of about 14 million Jews worldwide>> what has this to do with the topic? ..<<..Palestine:>>.. or indeed..<<..Rudd And Carr tightlipped on anti-Jewish policy>> i simply explained how a PATENT-clerk..could easy plagiarize even..quoted him..saying SECRET/sources is everything <<.."The secret to creativity is knowing..how to hide your sources." --Albert Einstein>> instead of being gratefull you hit me with <<-but Jew-haters like you can only hate,hate,hate....>> how can i..hate my fathers fathers <<Maybe you should try..and convert to Judaism>> cantmums not a jew/dads dont count but this seems curious..<<.and get with the strength>> if strength..includes cluster/and white phospher bombing children in..PALESTINE* please dont take it prersonally.. but why would.;.i want to join demons..in hell? jesus refused satan..now i feel..the same revulsion.. sure some seek power/thinking its strength to castlead and hurt kids..and thats happened and willhappen again..beyond dispute..in Palestine <<..-rather than trying to carry on the thousands of years old tradition of calling for the extermination of every Jew on this earth.>> thats your fear talking look david..we both know the plan.. one world govt..no states./.just top down..from jew to you.. peace/shalon..on your own terms..but first you need to..reduce the population..by billions First of all, we must face the facts: After all these centuries of mutual misunderstanding, the antisemitic Christians, the Muslims, and Hitler..have all failed to resolve the Jewish question. http://henrymakow.com/2013/08/Psychopathology-of-Judaism.html The fact is that the wanna be..dJews feed on and grow off the division they have engendered..among all the peoples of this world. This hatred, it must be said, is vital for their survival and for their spiritual genetics. Posted by one under god, Thursday, 5 September 2013 7:41:22 PM
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It..[israel].. has allowed them for many centuries now to close ranks within their community against an external enemy, while other civilizations have disappeared.
For their part, the rabbis spare no efforts to keep their gene pool Jewish. And so even a renegade Jew remains a Jew, and therefore it is perfectly useless to attempt to leave the Jewish prison community. Judaism is indeed a prison. Claiming that a Jew cannot ever stop being Jewish works in favor of Jewry's survival. Our mission must be to accommodate these sick among us, because the Jews are not "perfidious" people as much as they are sick people to be cured. Jews are to be loved individually and sincerely in order to free them from the prison in which they are locked. Only then will they become free from the cult's grip - and from the threat they pose to themselves and to all humanity. Only then we will become free from this grip, and at the same time, they will free themselves from the evil inside them that threatens all mankind. Source: http://storage.canalblog.com/88/46/516490/47626479.pdf <<What have you achieved..in your life OUG>> too much to list but here is the last two http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5995&page=0 http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5984&page=0 <<You don't even have the courage..to tell us your real name>> what do you want from me? graham knows both my true name and address if you wish to visit.. or send in..mossad..it would be a pleasure <<..pathetic really..>>.. no..its just sad..so much..more was to be expected..from gods own chosen..given so much.. yet..so much more is to be expected you want control..ok.. under grace/mercy..BUT im not seeing it...here <<..30,000 of Israel’s 3.5 million visitors in 2012 came to get medical treatment..>> how many did israel cause? how many were jews..or palistinian? detail dear david DETAILS..links.. *proof* talk is cheap we seen..the visions/divisions gods beloved city destroyed/divided despoiled Posted by one under god, Thursday, 5 September 2013 7:44:05 PM
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ps..i would like your opinion on this..see last posts
which shows my self assumed role in things..as we strive to find common ground. http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15257&page=0 david..we need to reveal..how great god and his people are and your doing..just fine with his creation..but god seems lacking..in your thesis but without 'g-d'..where stand gods people? god..is the life force..that animates life its living all life..all living..light sustaining life via logic into love into peace loving god by trying to love ALL*..his creation how easy..it would be for 'gods own'..to explain..our division.. ONLY derives from greeds/creeds.. built up around..gods MANY MESSENGERS.. same god who...is not gods people that ye do to the least..ye do to him if you want..more visitors..make peace build it..they will come..in peace..with honor and respect..[for the peacemakers]..true fathers of the father..who drew all his children..into seeing how great thou art.. we will know the comforter is here..when we feel comfortable the people of the peace maker..are making peace shalom whatever that means..for theee Posted by one under god, Friday, 6 September 2013 6:39:50 AM
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#one under god
I must congratulate you. You have achieved an astonishing feat by making even David Singer's ramblings appear reasonable. At first I thought I was reading an interesting Haiku poem but seems I gave you too much credit. As Mr Singer knows, I don’t agree with much that he writes, but the filthy, ignorant, barely coherent, misspelt, misinformed, tripe that you've spewed out about Jewish people is manna from heaven from people like Mr Singer who wrongly believe the world is divided between people who support Israel and anti-Semitic bigots like yourself. Well done from putting a little nail in the coffin of the Palestinian cause. A bit like the daft gits who sang "kill the Jews" at the BDS demonstration in South Africa last week, only to be admonished by other Palestinian supporters. Sadly, for every nut-job like yourself on sites like these, there is another on the other side of the argument. Posted by Ben DR, Friday, 6 September 2013 4:50:48 PM
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yes..hi ben..[18 posts..all..beginning with david
bar the last two..i thought i would checkout your three letter post/first http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15164&page=0#262808 it does seem..i managed singlehandedly to..unite two who..dont always..like each other[no.thanks needed] so..i have set back the palistinian cause in fact..done something..seemingly equaly vile as that you quote..<<..A bit like the daft gits who sang "kill the Jews" at>> pleas point out where that goes for david as well with his...<<>...Jew-haters like you can only hate,hate,hate....>> again..i would ask him to..prove it..too..[isuggust neither of you bothered reading my actual words yet you BOTH..come uip with the same shhhh it.. like him..<<..Go crawl back under your rock..of anonymity and rot in hell.>> you..<<.., but the filthy, ignorant, barely coherent, misspelt, misinformed, tripe that you've spewed out..>> <<..for every nut-job like yourself>>. please state where i was rude to either..you[either of you]..jews/Palestinians...or him[the other one. peas in a pod the pair of ya sort of looks like good cop/bad cop..[mossads tested way to handle propaganda]..play..both sides..[that only become obvious via a stress test] like puten did to..obama http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/putin-puts-obama-in-hot-seat-what-will-you-do-if-rebels-are-ones-using-chemical-weapons/ what next..one or other of you..saying i..kill kids? http://12160.info/group/impending-attack-on-syria/forum/topic/show?id=2649739%3ATopic%3A713711&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic or the red-flag event in planning http://www.infowars.com/exclusive-high-level-source-confirms-secret-us-nuclear-warhead-transfer-to-east-coast/ pleas be specific..either of you where did i upset..you specifically i know david hated hearing of einsteins plagiarism but ben..who knows..but by their works will we know them you..know arrafat/plo..was a mossad operation..dont you..ben? Posted by one under god, Friday, 6 September 2013 9:39:36 PM
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#one under god
Go play on the neo-nazi / psycho jihadist web sites where you will be in good company amongst all your unhinged little friends and their hilarious conspiracy theories about Jews controlling the world, the banking system, the water system or how they eat babies and are responsible for everything from plotting 9/11 to murdering JC. Those who actually care about the Pal cause don't need folk like you damaging our efforts. Goodness knows some pro-israel groups run a highly effective propoganda campaign as it is and you make their job super easy. If you can't see why then you're not very bright. Also, learn to spell and write properly. You're embarrassing yourself. Posted by Ben DR, Saturday, 7 September 2013 7:31:46 AM
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well..ben..thanks for..the specifics..its clear bendover
hasnt got any..how does mossad train..you guys today?.. sure you can..at least write.. but cant think. think brother.. if mossad runs the offence..[like op cast lead/dead] plus the defense..via the likes of mossad stooges..like bendover/plo etc its little wonder we dont get peace not in..our time..nor indeed ANY time too many..pretenders/defenders/apologists anyhow all i can do..is point-out the..bleeding obvious [19 posts means its all token-istic../bluff fluff asnd wind] the good cop..bends over and the not so..good cop..runs and hides look how easy.. you two OPPOSING..sides ...both agree too easy..seemingly well see Armageddon..is bigger than an expanding..wanna-be/free land settler.. yet the common factor..no specific quotable offense.. plus slander lies deceit..no links..biased accusations...intimidation false accusation and accessions to provoking..even more mass /murder heck..by the time i learn to write properly..[by your measure] the pair of ya..will have done Armageddon..[this includes children too] bah apologists..for the inexcusable bah..the pair of ya..just alike..peas in a plot not* Posted by one under god, Saturday, 7 September 2013 8:12:17 AM
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where were you..during operation cast lead?
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/MDE15/015/2009/en/8f299083-9a74-4853-860f-0563725e633a/mde150152009en.pdf http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=8347&page=0#131063 later..i wrote >>..http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/959229.html An invention..called'the Jewish people'By Tom Segev Israel's'Declaration_of_Independence'states..that the Jewish people arose in the Land of Israel and..were exiled from its'homeland'. Wrong,says the historian Shlomo-Zand... There never was a'Jewish people',only a Jewish-religion,and the exile also never happened..hence there was no return. Zand rejects most of the stories of national-identity formation in the Bible,including the exodus..from Egypt,and,the horrors of the conquest under Joshua...It's all fiction and myth..that served as an excuse for the establishment of the State of Israel, he asserts;the Romans..did not generally exile whole nations,and most of the Jews were permitted to remain in the country...It follows that the progenitors..of the Palestinian Arabs were Jews...Zand did not invent this thesis;30 years before..the Declaration of Independence,it was espoused by David Ben-Gurion,Yitzhak Ben-Zvi and others. If the majority of the Jews were not exiled,how is it that so many of them reached almost every country on earth? Zand quotes..from many existing studies,some of which were written in Israel but shunted out of..the central discourse..The first Jews of Ashkenaz Germany)did not come from the Land of Israel..and did not reach Eastern Europe from Germany,but became Jews..in the Khazar Kingdom in the Caucasus. Zand explains the origins of Yiddish culture:it was not a Jewish import from Germany,but the result of the connection between the offspring of the Kuzari and Germans who traveled to the East,some of them as merchants. We find,then,that the Zionist need to devise for them a shared ethnicity and historical continuity produced a long series of inventions and fictions,along with..an invocation of racist theses...Some were concocted..in the minds of those who conceived the Zionist movement,while others were offered..as the findings of genetic studies conducted in Israel. Prof.Zand teaches at Tel Aviv University.His book,"When and How Was the Jewish People Invented?" published by Resling in Hebrew),is intended to promote..the idea that Israel should be a"state of all its citizens"-Jews,Arabs and others[ie all semites]-in contrast to its declared identity as a "Jewish and democratic" state. many Israelis..will be astonished to read.. this..for the first time. http://www.biblestudysite.com/factsarefacts.htm or hear this http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/shoutcast/shoutcast.html anyhow http://whatreallyhappened.com/node Posted by one under god, Saturday, 7 September 2013 8:45:19 AM
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ben dover
where were you..during operation/pillar cloud Pillar of Cloud turning children..into dust[white phospher/cluster bombs] For the November 2012 Israeli military operation in Gaza, see Operation Pillar of Cloud. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillar_of_Cloud For the 1833 poem by John Henry Newman "the Pillar of Cloud" turned into a hymn,..see Lead,.Kindly Light. A pillar of cloud as one of the manifestations of the presence of the God of Israel in the Torah. According to Exodus, the pillar of cloud guided the Israelites by day during the Exodus from Egypt (circa the 18th Dynasty; see dating of the Exodus). The pillar of cloud is traditionally paired with the manifestation of the divine presence by night as the pillar of fire, which provided light. This was so they "could travel by day or night". * Exodus 13:21-22 By day the Lord went ahead of them in a pillar of cloud to guide them on their way and by night in a pillar of fire to give them light, so that they could travel by day or night. Neither the pillar of cloud by day nor the pillar of fire by night left its place in front of the people. . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pillar_of_Defense Posted by one under god, Saturday, 7 September 2013 9:19:53 AM
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# one under medication
That's amazing. But did you know that if you transpose the letters of the word "matzah ball soup" to numbers and multiply and add them in a particular way, you get the number 666 ! Spooky but it is all so clear now dont you think ? Generations of jewish grandmothers have been passed on a recipe that is code for the devil. I shudder to think what the innocuous bagel is actually code for ? We must put an end to these fiendish plots once and for all. Perhaps you and i could arrange a picket outside local jewish delicatessants to warn people before they consume these satanic dishes ? If you came dressed up as a giant Matzha ball with horns sticking out, I'm sure that would get the message home. Your suggesions on these matters would be greatly appreciated. Posted by Ben DR, Saturday, 7 September 2013 12:54:25 PM
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bend over..your shooting blanks
but that too..is A..typical mossad method.. one.. <U>.. goes..the off topic trolling.[bait] then your pal..complains..we trolled him*..off topic lets de-bait* the debate. but davids silence..is noted* [his..4 and a half day silence..signifies concent]..[implied agreement]. . so..lets have a go..@..your 666...toll. your latest off topic troll* *THE MARK *OF THE BEAST* .......<<<.....IS*......>>............ *THE SIX~POINTED STAR* posted..to show..to the people that the six-pointed star..is the mark of the beast; and trusting that, with this understanding,..many will reject the mark..[eternal war]..when it comes. Many Jews/palistinians..and Christians have been deceived by Jewish Kabbalists..who would have them believe..that the six-pointed star..is a Jewish symbol. *Nothing could be further from the truth. *It is not a Jewish symbol,..but an occult symbol. The six-pointed star*..is a hexagram -a curse mark* -no matter what name it may have.:..the Star of David, Solomon's Seal, Double Triangle, Shield of David, etc. When the occult practitioner..puts a curse on..some'one,..he uses the hexagram! It is not our goal..to condemn the Jewish people, but to condemn the six-pointed star*, a curse mark*. It is not a Jewish symbol.. but an occult symbol.* SIX* straight-lines SIX* points of intersection into..*Six small triangles ..6..triangles..=..6 ...ISOLATED fiefdoms.. the..6.6.6..* are all..surrounding a..HEX-o-gram [6 small thief-doms/enslaved serf-dumbs/..dumbed downpeons sparsly populated..by automotons..benumbed..minimum wage slaves.. paying tithe to their.. ZIONista..UBER-masters..perpetual rent to the 4 th reiche'..slumlord$$].. http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/aipac-is-a-grave-threat-to-world-peace.html http://therebel.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=689196:just-whose-war-is-this&catid=139:bollyn&Itemid=1310&acm=733_738 Brethren, my heart's desire..and prayer to Good for Israel..is,..that they might be saved. http://youtu.be/DgRVNjsuycQ And I saw…them.. that had gotten..the victory over the beast, http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/shoutcast/shoutcast.html And over his image and..over his mark… http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/09/06/322464/congressmen-getting-bribed-for-syria-war/ ..a zeal for God, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvv34F9QkVg but not according to knowledge. (Rev. 10:1,2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYzeyQGE6yU But ye have born..the tabernacle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK6VLFdWJ4I *of your Moloch,.. and Chiun (Remphan).. your images.., you..have lifted..the shrine of your lord..the platform..of idiolitry ..the STAR* OF YOUR GOD, ..which ye made to yourselves. (Amos 5:26-27) addendum re sources.. http://davidduke.com/abu-ghraib-wrapped-in-an-israeli-flag/ http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2013/09/06/us-congress-finds-overwhelming-public-opposition-to-force-in-syria/ http://investmentwatchblog.com/ellen-brown-trapped-in-a-web-of-debt-and-a-derivatives-time-bomb/ http://www.mybudget360.com/student-day-of-reckoning-jp-morgan-private-student-debt-student-loan-bubble/ http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/questions-arise-as-to-defense.html http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/aipac-is-a-grave-threat-to-world-peace.html http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/09/06/footage-of-chemical-attack-on-aug-21st-in-syria-is-fraud/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAi9Y-Gf_-o http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5995&page=0 http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5984&page=0 http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15408&page=0 http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15257&page=0 http://new-birth.net/booklet/Gone_West.pdf http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3352 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AStar_of_David http://www.triumphpro.com/star-of-david.htm The so-called “Star of David” is essentially a “hex*agram,..deception. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK6VLFdWJ4I http://investmentwatchblog.com/who-is-going-to-buy-our-debt-if-this-war-causes-china-russia-and-the-rest-of-the-world-to-turn-on-us/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ayb02bwp0 http://watch.pair.com/mark.htm Posted by one under god, Saturday, 7 September 2013 9:41:10 PM
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bendover..you must recall..john kerry
visited israel..mant times..these last few weeks he has been..mind programed..by the mossad [as witnessed..by about how he was..talking..peace..in*..palestein..one minute]..the next making up lies to kill syria and begin armogeddon http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/06/john-kerry-congress-syria_n_3881200.html much like you ..feign to seek peace in palistein.. yet befriend instantly..your presumed nemisis..lol..yet another..faulse peace maker[like kerry?] http://www.stopwar.org.uk/news/tell-john-kerry-world-says-no-to-war-on-syria i..have none i hate.. none i fear..none i despise[how can i.. to despise any..is to despise the good/god sustaining its living anyhow you must be in shock..but your ma$ters arnt. we need vile..so we can realise our own greatness..by ending it.. [yet never allowing its learning to be forgotten thus for this 'his people'..have a special capability.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD0pnfmdlC8#t=474 that once they see the truth=peace love grace and mercy.. this..may just lead us to the promised..[contracted]..1000..years of peace] http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15257&page=0 the easy way.. http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/09/07/dont-act-like-animals-abroad-new-poster-exhibit-opens-in-tel-aviv-in-bid-to-raise-awareness-to-israeli-tourists-behavior/ http://investmentwatchblog.com/12-year-old-girl-tells-the-people-the-truth-about-rothschild-corrupt-bankers-and-economy/ http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-09-07/high-level-us-intelligence-officers-syrian-government-didn%E2%80%99t-launch-chemical- or the hard way http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/10-signs-global-elite-are-losing-control.html http://investmentwatchblog.com/senator-john-songbird-mccain-guarantees-russia-and-china-will-not-retaliate-a-u-s-syria-strike-basically-says-they-dont-have-the-balls-video/ http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/SullivanVUSA.pdf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCqj0OvlJgo anyhow..david..your avoidence concernes me http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-and-defense/1.545661 lets back to basics..KEV/carr both gone* palistein* issue silenced... now..what about sharon? and the writing..being..on the wall? http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/09/07/france-backs-off-support-for-syrian-strike.html?comp=7000023435700&rank=3 WHERE..are my PROMISED*..9 good things? i am hearing.. too many vile things http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/nearly-one-sixth-of-population-on-food-stamps/66683/ http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/national-security-versus-food-insecurity-one-in-seven-hungry-in-america-as-obama-prepares-for-syrian-war/66670/ What Nuclear War Would Look Like - Obama and the plan for World War 3 - Best documentary film 2013 http://xrepublic.tv/node/5255 http://investmentwatchblog.com/record-90473000-not-in-labor-force-so-that-would-put-the-unemployment-rate-at-what-posts-say-from-35-to-40-wtf/ http://intellihub.com/2013/09/06/israel-limited-strike-syria-game/ http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/the-conflict-in-syria-and-global-resistance-why-humanity-will-prevail/66699/ http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/as-tech-companies-create-alibis-experts-warn-nsa-harms-are-irreparable/66703/ http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130905/15531224420/nsa-gchq-admit-that-enemy-is-public.shtml http://news.yahoo.com/russia-sends-warship-special-cargo-syria-102835383.html Ladies and Gentlemen, are we are on the brink of nuclear war. http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/diabolical-chemical-weapons-intelligence-operation-killing-syrian-civilians-and-blaming-it-on-the-enemy/66690/ when..Will WWIII commence? http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15408&page=0 “The Jewish State”—What It Really Means and Why the Rest of the World Should be Terrified at the mere mention of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9_qyLALPyCk Israel is desperate..not only for war but to prove..*they still control the US Congress even in the face of growing anger from the American voters. http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5984&page=0 Now we are hearing the House vote may be two weeks away, http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/shoutcast/shoutcast.html giving AIPAC plenty of time to work/bribe/blackmail members of Congress http://bit.ly/158p6ka to launch a war the American people *overwhelmingly do not approve of. No doubt they are hoping that over the next two weeks, http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/is-fall-coming.html public outcry over the war will fade away, http://www.worldcrunch.com/world-affairs/not-just-russia-italy-other-europeans-sold-plenty-of-weapons-to-syria/arms-syria-italy-weapons-embargo/c1s13307/ http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/mccain-obama-syria-impeach/2013/09/06/id/524327?s=al&promo_code=14CC5-1 http://intellihub.com/2013/09/06/u-s-navy-destroyers-air-force-b-2-b-52-bombers-set/ http://www.aipac.org/en/about/contact-us http://xrepublic.tv/node/5254 http://www.stopwar.org.uk/news/tell-john-kerry-world-says-no-to-war-on-syria Posted by one under god, Sunday, 8 September 2013 8:18:14 AM
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OUG,
Please take my advice, you really need a holiday from OLO. Posted by mac, Sunday, 8 September 2013 9:21:50 AM
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#UOG
You are genius for working all that out. Did you know that Max Brenner (as in the coffee shop with supposed connections to Israel) is an anagram for "Annex Brr Em". Brr Em is ancient Aramaic for the West Bank. Also - and this may shock people- Barbara Streisand and Yentel are an anagram for "Settle a Barnyard Near Bis". A Barnyard near Bis is Mossad code for the West Bank. Get it ? The movie Yentel is part of an elaborate propaganda campaign to undermine the rights of Palestinians. The song from Yentel "Papa can you hear me" is clearly a rallying cry for the destruction of the Palestinians. UOG these people need to be stopped ! We look to you UOG to save us. Only you have the wisdom and knowledge to decipher their nefarious coded messages. Help us before it is too late ! Help us please! Posted by Ben DR, Sunday, 8 September 2013 12:21:49 PM
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ur a fool
ben duh.. stop trolling set to ignore good riddance Posted by one under god, Sunday, 8 September 2013 3:11:55 PM
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And from that statement, which speaks against Israel expansion into occupied Palestinian land, Mr Singer manages to declare a wholly imaginary anti-Jewish policy. He does his argument no good by conflating a criticism of Israel with anti-Jewish, or anti-Semitic, intent. Sloppy reasoning, really. But then that's David, isn't it?