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Riots in Egypt are about food, not about 'freedom' : Comments

By Sam Vaknin, published 1/2/2011

Egyptian crowds are only calling for freedom and democracy because they know it sounds good on international TV.

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Richard Tsukamasa Green

Yep.

Absolutely right.

Most revolutions end in tears for those whom the old regime oppressed. As it happens I know many Iranians. They wanted out from under the Shah but they did not want the mullahs.

Whoever governs Egypt will probably not be able to address the one issue all protesters seem to have at the top of their agenda - jobs.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 9:46:17 PM
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Dear AndrewElder...*I like your style*... and of course, in saying that, I've given you the kiss of death around here :) ('me' saying that)

But..press on with your well founded comments please.

From the Article:

Home run- Egyptian GDP up 5% in 2010,
Strike 1-comestibles soared by 17% and
Strike 2-unemployment ratcheted up to 9.7%.

That doesn't sound like what he says next....

"Hopelessness" is a potent combustible:

America has around the same unemployment..but... no riots yet. (Beck says they're coming.. so must be troooo :)

Sooo...... where are all these riots coming from ?

The EDL has a noteworty take on the issue:

http://englishdefenceleague.org/content.php?204-The-Prophet-and-the-Proletariat

Seems quite plausible. The riots and crowds are not 'spontaneous'... they are clearly orchestrated....

by.....?

Ingredients.

Iran
-Perceived "US interference..propping up puppet gov't."
-Socialists, well organized stir up workers.
-Islamists, well organized stir up students and unemployed/poor
-Long exiled Islamist religious leader returns home

Hmmmmm...sounding more like Egypt each day
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 5:07:39 AM
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Stevenlmeyer "Most revolutions end in tears" He is trying to imply that the Egyptians remain slaves to international corporate thuggery.Webster Tarpley thinks that the USA/Israel saw the writing on the wall and initiated the overthrow of Mubarak just to give the people a choice of more palitable despots anf more of the same.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 5:31:50 AM
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Arjay,

Whatever the result of today's march and the timing of Mubarak's ultimate demise, it may well become "more of the same". That seems to be the fate of so many countries these days destined to see the sticky little fingers of the US and their masters, Israel doing all they can to control the middle east.

I think Sam should stick to narcissism as his future looks dismal in creative writing and rational thinking.

As for a shortage of food, a common problem in a lot of countries, a little less spent on armaments, military weapons and Presidential largesse could have gone a long way to overcome that. Did Sam mention that?

I do fear the emergence of yet another dicatator, as they are the people that receive the political backing from the US, its total history showing the removal of good people and then replacing them with dictators, South America being peppered with the sad results of their interference, the best example being Pinochet, 16 years of murder

So it may well be, more of the same. Let us hope not.
Posted by rexw, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 9:12:29 AM
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rexw,I think this is why they are getting Mubarak to announce he will not stand for President but stay on for a peaceful transition to a new leader.Murbarak will be manipulating the situation as usual beacuse he will be in power until the elections.

Tarpley is not confident that there will be real change unless the masses get a free internet to organise and inform.I have to say I agree,since very few really understand the mechanisms which control them,even in the West.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 10:13:34 AM
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The author is on the right track. Egypt is committing demographic suicide with its two per cent population growth rate. More people mean more food is needed. Yet Egypt's oil exports are declining while its food imports are increasing - at some point it may not be able to import more food. Meanwhile the Aswan Dam stops replenishment by silt of the Nile flood plain, particularly the Delta, so you get ever declining soil quality and a subsiding Delta, exacerbating food insecurity. And with rapidly expanding populations in the other nine countries of the Nile Basin, they too may rise up and demand more of the Nile water, depriving Egypt of its current 55 per cent share. It doesn't rain much in Egypt, so the country is almost wholly dependent on the Nile for water (domestic, industrial and agricultural). If Egypt loses its current share of the Nile waters, all hell really will break loose.
Posted by popnperish, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 10:52:45 AM
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