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The politics of hate and hate speech : Comments

By Walt Brasch, published 19/1/2011

United States: why do the 'super patriots' of the Reactionary Right believe they and no one else have the truth?

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Dear Al,

You seem to be giving credence to the notion of armed insurrection - which is the point that many of us have been making - in that Beck and Palin seem to consistently promote the idea of a threat and a need for revolution, spiritually but with the ever-present suggestion of physical violence.

Apparently Wilmington has been in the news because of hard economic times and a determination to "do it on their own" without government handouts. Beck, unsurprisingly, has adopted their cause and grafted it onto his agenda as representative of the "American Way". (wonder how many Hispanics there are in Wilmington?)
Here's a little more info on how the good folk of Wilmington shun government handouts.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201012070007
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 22 January 2011 10:37:04 AM
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Here is an extensive list which displays Beck's manipulative style.
His prognostications of future violence emanating from the "left" serve his agenda well and act as a device to inflate the fear of his audience.
The constant references to violence, either as something to fear or as a solution to that fear, is palpably evident in Beck's rhetoric.
That Beck and Palin would deny their roles in inciting discomfort and fear among their followers without awareness of the likelihood of it brimming over into physical violence is extraordinary.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201010110015
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 22 January 2011 11:35:58 AM
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"MORAL position ? oh..words fail me....check THIS out

//*beeeep* involvement in porn, by this argument, is the result of an atavistic hatred of Christian authority: they are trying to weaken the dominant culture in America by moral subversion.//

Google THAT.. see what comes up..and go to the ORIGINAL source please. Pssst...it's here 'Triple-Exthnics'"
-Al

Trying to paint the Jews as evil 'coz they've got their fingers in the porn pie? Nice try, but the only folk you're going to sway with that argument are the other two (2) people in this country who consider porn evil, and those who already consider Judaism evil (sadly, there are probably more anti-Semites than there are prudes). If you want to paint the Jews as evil, you'll have to do better than porn. I suggest that you accuse them of poisoning wells, or sacrificing children to perform blood magic.

"Ah.. Let em go at it and may the best man be the last man standing."
-Al

As ill as it makes me feel, I can't help but agree with Al here. I believe in the absolute right to free speech - speech unfettered by any form of censorship, by libel laws, by discrimination laws, by sedition laws, by offensive language laws, by blasphemy laws, indeed by any law. At the end of the day, words don't hurt people - only actions hurt people. There is a vast difference 'twixt making a seditious speech and actually taking up arms in rebellion. Nobody is forced to believe what they hear; they certainly aren't forced to act on it. If a speech from some lefty/righty twat/twat encourages some nutter/nutter to take up a Molitov/rifle and bomb/shoot police/civilians at a G20 summit/political rally; but encourages sensible folk like me and you to shake our heads and think 'what a twat', is it really fair to hold the twat's words responsible for the actions of the nutter? Of course not, 'coz those exact same words didn't provoke acts of violence from all the sensible folk. The blame rests with the nutter. QED.

Cheers,
The Other (and Much Cooler) Al
Posted by Aleister Crowley, Monday, 24 January 2011 10:35:02 PM
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