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A psychologist who claimed lessons on LGBT+ relationships can “corrupt” children. She a leading campaigner against relationship and sex education lessons. The Muslim convert - who set up the petition calling for parents to be able to opt out of relationships education - was filmed as she said that many young Muslims were “turning to same-sex relationships because they haven’t had the guidance.” In the video of Dr Godfrey-Faussett, uploaded in December, the psychologist argued that lessons on LGBT+ relationships – which use story books to teach about different families – are part of a “social engineering programme” to corrupt children." She also complained about the “queering of the Muslim community” and urged people to “work psychologically or in a mental health capacity” with Muslims who were attracted to the same sex. Dr Godfrey-Faussett said she felt she’d already been “publicly hung, drawn and quartered” by her professional body.
The Muslim Council of Wales defended their decision to invite Dr Godfrey-Faussett to speak at the event which they said was to provide "information and guidance" on the proposed changes. It was "reassured that she is committed to respectful and accurate dialogue on the sensitive topic of sex education in schools," a spokesperson told BBC Wales.

Sharia law in Islam. And LGBT is never okay. In gynecology, urology & dermatology departments, we often get gay patients with terrible diagnoses. They always come with complaints relate to their sexual activities.

Indiscipline, incivility, binge drinking, drug addiction, gun and knife crimes, teenage pregnancies and abortion are part and parcel of British schooling. These are the reasons why majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. Only less than 5% attend Muslim schools and more than 95% keep on attending state and church schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers.

Muslim schools teach Muslim children that sex outside marriage is a sin. Homosexuality is also a sin. sex before marriage and homosexuality are western values and Muslims are not supposed to adopt them.
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
Posted by Iftikhar, Saturday, 18 May 2019 2:02:39 AM
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Iftikhar,

Good to see you back, some of the locals need a bit of humour after the election.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 19 May 2019 9:05:04 AM
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What a load of pointless blather from a foreigner.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 19 May 2019 9:13:41 AM
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Rampant homophobia as displayed by bigoted Muslims
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 19 May 2019 1:38:24 PM
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"Rampant homophobia as displayed by bigoted Muslims"

I wonder does he play football?
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 19 May 2019 4:41:08 PM
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Backward!Please get an education.
Posted by Forwardplease, Sunday, 19 May 2019 5:24:35 PM
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If you don't support western values, then maybe you shouldn't live in the West?

"Indiscipline, incivility, binge drinking, drug addiction, gun and knife crimes, teenage pregnancies and abortion are part and parcel of British schooling."

Well why did you go to live there then?

There's 2 sides to every coin.
If you teach your Muslim kids your ways;
- In our 'heavily debauched' countries;
Then they will become so polarised in our countries that they will go and kill themselves and our kids too.
Now maybe that's preferable to Islam more than being the shame of your child being gay;
But no-one asks my preference.

My preference is that you take your shite elsewhere.
Preferably back to your own country.

I don't support the west messing with your countries;
And I sure as hell don't support you messing with ours.
Go back to wherever you came from;
Wherever home really is.
Maybe you'll be happier there and it will cause a lot less friction for everyone.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 20 May 2019 9:33:26 PM
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It is easy to say" Go back to where you came from", but do not forget that British Muslims are actually born and educated here. They are in the unenviable position of trying to combine two different worlds. That is no easy. We do not want to change you lot but we would like to see our children getting balanced Islamic education along with National Curriculum. We would like our children to learn and be well versed in standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time we would like our children to learn and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit. Bilingualism is an asset but British schooling regards it as a problem.

We live in a shrunken world and millions of people are on the move; one of our biggest challenges is how we learn to live in proximity to difference – different skin colours, different beliefs and different way of life.

Immigrants are the creators of Britain new wealth, otherwise, inner cities deprived areas could not get new lease of life. The native Brits regard such areas as ghettos. Integration is not religious and cultural, it is economic and Muslims are well integrated into British society and at the same time they are proud of their Islamic, linguistic and cultural identities, inspite of discrimination they have been facing in all walks of life.

A report by the Institute for Community Cohesion found that native parents were deserting some schools after finding their children out numbered by pupils from ethnic minorities. Schools in parts of England are becoming increasingly segregated. The study focused on 13 local authorities. Many of the schools and colleges are segregated and this was generally worsening over recent years. This is RACISM because British society is the home of institutional racism.
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
Posted by Iftikhar, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 4:01:01 AM
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Yes welcome back, and yes I need something to take my mind from the election results
You may not be aware but in part your faith is part of the recent loss
See people continue to believe folk like you are a threat to our culture
I may share that view but fight constantly to highlight not every Muslim is in any way a threat
So what am I on about? separatism.
I do not see your faith as my enemy, but separatism is
Your Faith has every right to be as it is, but so has the faiths of my country men, and yes our equals, our women
So remember please remember, if I stood in your Islamic countries and spoke ass you do some times here, I could be killed
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 8:47:53 AM
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Iftikhar,

With a clearly bigoted statement such as:

"It is a crime against humanity to send Muslim children to state and church schools with non-Muslim teachers. A Muslim child needs a state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during his/her developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school"

It appears that what you want is for the state to pay for schools only for muslim students. The reality is that if you want that then like for church schools your community needs to stump up the hard cash yourselves.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 10:21:16 AM
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Congratulations, Iftikhar,

Your posts are the most persuasive statements that I have read to make me support the 'left'/Green position that religion shouldn't be taught in schools, that state funds shouldn't be used to promote religion, and that qualified teachers should be able to teach anywhere regardless of their sexual proclivities.

Keep posting please, so that I can firm up my point of view on those issues :)

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 10:56:36 AM
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Oh Joe I thought you supported diversity rather than the narrow minded Christophobic Greens bigots who are just as totalitarian as much of Islam. You fail to see the hypocrisy of your view. Though far from perfect things went extremely well for about 80 years in this nation under a Judea Christian ethics granted the large number of homosexual paedophile priests that were left to destroy lives.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 11:43:37 AM
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In the end no God ever existed
In fact we suffer from the worst in all faiths while they pursue phantoms
Our author wants things from our community that would have us butchered in the lands his parents came from if we did that
Rest my case integration, mutual respect but not separatism
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 2:27:29 PM
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"Rest my case integration, mutual respect but not separatism"

With followers of Muhammad?

Come inside, the sun is gettin' to yer.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 3:11:59 PM
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Hi Runner,

I must admit I'm quite conflicted, since I support Folau's right to express his opinions, and the rights of church schools to be able to set the criteria for selecting their own staff. But the inconvenient parallels with Muslim schools throw up all sorts of contradictions for me. I'm still working them through.

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 3:35:34 PM
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IF God made us all, why did he make other Gods
Did God put different values on people
Do we exist so we can hate followers of other Gods
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 4:29:37 PM
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To Iftikhar.

If you want outside support for Muslim schools, the first issue needed to address is that the schools would be safe for the community. Islamic communities are ripe for turning their own people into extremist. Worse they do this with no sign that the Muslim community wants to correct the harms done. A school dedicated for only Muslims sounds like a short step away from a community of extremists teaching their kids to be extremists.

That said, I get your wanting a private school setting. I've heard of similar wants among Christians in the US. Wanting to protect their kids from more and more left leaning indoctrination that includes either to despise Christianity, and/or an encouragement to over sexualization and gender confusion for young kids. I've heard these arguments among some Christians, and see them choose a Christian private school that is paid for by the parents, not through taxes.

For those that don't go to a private Christian school, there's no fear that those schools will turn out criminals and terrorists. There is that fear though for Muslim schools. Either to turn out extremists, or to turn out youth that do not value women, and hate the outside communities and the country they live in. Increasing rape and crime as a whole, or worse organized extremist groups that mass murder the population they are in.

Ensure that Muslims schools are safe for those in them, and safe for the outside community, then you'll likely get more support to start those schools and have parents pay without tax assistance to be taught there.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 2:11:00 AM
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I am aware my view is not shared by everyone, too that in some countries my view would, quite honestly, see me butchered
But here is the very basis of western thought, I have the right to my view
Our author may not return, we see him often but this time my words may distress him
I reject the pure bigotry, from both sides, as in the end inhuman
But can not avoid this truth, we who do not believe are not looking for believers to do anything, other than stop pressing us to fall in behind your views
And to stop seeing governments schools anything being molded by faith in a God that never existed
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 6:44:43 AM
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