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New Europe Independent States.

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//In England people cannot wait to leave Europe with Brexit.//

Well, I suppose if you call stockpiling medicine and seeking dual citizenship with EU countries not being able to wait to leave Europe, then yeah, sure...

But bear in mind that only just over 50% of voters wanted to leave in the first place, and I'm pretty sure a few of them have changed their minds since they've seen what a dog's breakfast the Tories have made of the negotiations.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 6:00:44 PM
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Right-Wing parties thrive under conditions of economic
instability and perceived threats.
Foxy,
Perceived threats ? That is the understatement of the year. And, what in your opinion is the cause of this economic instability ? let me guess, of course-the Right ! got it, cheers.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 9:13:37 PM
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In a democracy "perception of the masses is what is important"- unless you can change their minds by fair or foul means.

The masses are angry the changes that are forced on them by the progressives. Change is a synonym of progressive.

As far as hate goes there is plenty on all sides- sometimes the correct reaction is hate. I hate what the globalist progressive authoritarian socialists are taking from the people of the world and the people of Australia. They are dis-empowering the people from their own birth right. Destroying democracy. Disgusting.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 11:42:04 PM
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Hey ttbn,

Bibi's getting cosy with the far right.
http://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/comment/2018/10/2/netanyahus-dangerous-connections-with-europes-far-right

Now you know that I'll criticise Israel if I believe the issue has merit; I pretty much say what I think; and that I've even silenced yourself and others who tried to label me and others anti-Semitic; and despite that I don't bash Jews or show hatred towards Israel at every possible every opportunity.

I mostly argue from a position of whether an issue holds merit.

We both support Australia's interests, only you are also Pro-Israel, maybe Pro-Zionist as well, where I just support Australia number 1 and everyone else equal last;

- And I don't hold your pro-Israel position against you so long as you care about Australia's interests first and foremost.

Why is it that Israel always supports an anti-racist pro-immigrant anti-discrimination position in the west, which in some ways seems to help foster the Islam problem into our countries but then in the end sides with the nationalists against Islam?

I do know for fact that it was Jewish politicians in the US that originally supported softer immigration laws.

A lot of things get said with conspiracy stuff;
I don't want to sound conspiratorial but there's no avoiding it.

I look at this whole thing over the last say 70 years since the creation of Israel, and with all the stuff I know, I can't help thinking that in some ways Israel has exported its Muslim problem to all our countries, supporting pro-immigration stances many years ago in the name of Jewish free movement and anti-discrimination;

So that it's problem would become our problem.

I'm probably going to cop it for saying it, and if that's price of free speech so be it.
I'm not going to say I know it for fact, but that's the feeling I get.

- That Israel has deceptively exported it's problem to us, so that it's problem would become our problem too.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 4 October 2018 12:00:27 AM
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Thanks Armchair Critic for your comments again- Reading the Jerusalem Post the Hebrews appear very politically astute. Generally I'm concerned about any external or minority entity having disproportionate influence over the Australian nation- as all Australian's should be- Jewish groups such as the ADL, ADC as well as others certainly do seem to be influential but appear to have greater loyalty to Israel and to Hebrew dominance within the Australian and other communities. Certain Hebrews such as Monash do appear to have been loyal Australians. Generally if a particular group wants dominance perhaps the best solution is to give them their own territory to govern rather than sow the seeds of conflict and war.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 4 October 2018 12:32:10 AM
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In the thread about the EU I said and believe it was not accepted by some, a coming together by all sides of politics will take place there.
Just ask yourself can the party,s of the center or left just sit back and watch voters leave?
They in my opinion, will adopt some of the policy,s, even if in a weaker form, of the right, or become marginalized.
EU however, because it is too far down the track to go back, will survive
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 4 October 2018 6:55:28 AM
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