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For a bit of perspective, out of a US population of about 245 million, there are only about 5 million who are actual members of the NRA - although as many as 15 million "claim" to be members.

Most of the NRA funding doesn't come from membership but from weapons manufacturers and the NRA "launders" much of this into the coffers of politicians for obvious reasons.

Ultimately the blood of mass shooting victims is on the hands of those politicians as well as those who love their guns more than each other.

When it come to their media, there are the right-wing zealots like Alex Jones who insist that incidents like Sandy Hook were faked to win support for the Democrats and obviously many are happy to believe him.
(He also claimed that Hillary Clinton personally raped, murdered and ate children and had some opponents killed and some believed that too.)

NRA supporters and other gun worshippers may have automatic weapons but the government the 2nd Amendment fanatics think they may wish to overthrow one day has bombers, missiles and drones. Good luck with that.
Posted by rache, Friday, 27 April 2018 4:35:45 PM
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Thanks rache.

Well said.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 27 April 2018 5:08:47 PM
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Foxy

You said, "..., or even resorting to outright bribery..." when referring to the US NRA, care to back up the allegation?

Paul,

Found any evidence yet that the US NRA donates money to Australian political parties et al?

Steele,

The bloody math is that the support for the NRA has dramatically increased and every time some Australian politician or commentator trots out the Howard Gun Laws as an example to America, then the gun support goes up.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 27 April 2018 6:11:51 PM
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Dear mhaze,

I think Trump will be the best thing for swamp draining because his efforts in filling it with slime balls to further himself have become so brazen it is making ordinary Americans realise just how prevasive the corruption really is.

Your hero Pruitt is now the subject of 10 separate Federal investigations.

Even Republicans are looking seriously at him;

“Rep. Trey Gowdy, the Republican head of the the House Oversight Committee, isn’t a big fan of Pruitt. The committee Gowdy runs has asked the EPA chief to turn over all records related to the condo he rented from the wife of an oil and gas lobbyist for just $50 a night, as well as details about his security detail.”
http://news.vice.com/en_us/article/pax4pb/how-many-investigations-are-there-against-epa-chief-scott-pruitt

This man is the very epitome of a swamp dweller yet here you are wanting to bend down and polish his boots.

Just the other day Trump tried to flag his personal doctor for head of Veterans Affairs and a few months ago touted his own pilot for the head of the FAA.

“President Donald Trump is pushing to have his longtime personal pilot, John Dunkin, to head the Federal Aviation Administration”
http://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/25/politics/trump-pilot-faa-nomination/index.html

Actually mate I would love to hear your definition of what the 'swamp' really is. I haven't explored an alternative reality for a while.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 27 April 2018 6:36:56 PM
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rache,

One of the problems with believing any old data that tells you want you want to hear is that its rarely true.

"Most of the NRA funding doesn't come from membership but from weapons manufacturers "

That is patently and absolutely untrue. Here is a recent NRA tax return showing the error of your sources claim....http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf_archive/530/530116130/530116130_201312_990O.pdf

Total revenue - $347mill, membership dues - $183mill

The way your sources manipulate the data to misled the unsuspecting such as yourself (or those anxious to be misled) is to assume that all the other revenue comes from manufacturers. But it doesn't. A sizeable portion comes from donations by members or small donations from non-members who support the NRA's agenda. Other revenue is from advertising which does come from manufacturers but its, well, advertising. Its like saying the NRMA is run by manufacturers because they advertise in its magazines.

Still, these people don't need to justify their manipulation because it is all done in a 'good' cause. Right?

so:
"Thanks rache.

Well said."

" out of a US population of about 245 million"

Wow. It wasn't all that long ago that the US population was over 320 million. The gun violence is worse than I thought.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 27 April 2018 6:50:58 PM
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Oh well. If the mad buggers are that keen to get themselves shot I say leave 'em to it, and thank gods our society is marginally saner.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 27 April 2018 7:06:42 PM
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