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TRUMP INVITES PUTIN TO THE WHITE HOUSE.- GOOD THING OR NOT?

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Dear Shadow Minister,

Taken from the Los Angeles Times:

"A President who relies on threats as a negotiating tactic
has to follow through on them at some point. Otherwise they
have no credibility. And China appears perfectly willing to
call Trump's bluff and let a real trade war begin. After-all,
it has many other outlets for its goods, and its state-owned
industries are far more tolerant of disruption than US farmers
and publicly traded companies are."

"That's why Trump should have taken a different approach
from the start, working with other trading partners to bring
broad sanctions against China that would be hard to cirumvent
and carry real consequences for XI."

"In a statement Friday morning, the administration said it is
exploring that path too, bringing a complaint about China to
the World Trade Organization and 'working with allies also
affected by China's unfair behaviour to restore fairness to
global trade."

"Such efforts hold more promise than Trump's ever escalating
tariff threats."

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-trump-china-tariffs-20180406-story.html
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 2:01:16 PM
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Foxy,

For starters, the article you quoted is nearly a week out of date, and the news of today flies directly in the face of the LA times analysis.

Secondly, as China already has high trade barriers protecting strategic industries and China's economy is still largely reliant on exports of which, sales into the US is a large portion, China is far more vulnerable than the LAT indicates.

Thirdly, the acceptance of China's dictatorship is largely dependent on the rapid standard of living improvement and economic growth from the state's shift to capitalism. If this were to stop or even reverse, Xi and his cronies positions would be far less secure.

Paul,

Seriously, China plonking a military base essentially giving them control over most of our trade routes is bad news especially given China's recent use of its military to expand its territory, and given that much of China's "aid" has been in the form of high-interest loans to use Chinese firms to build white elephants.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 2:49:24 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

The link may be a week old - but the facts are relevant
and haven't changed. That's why I used the LA Times link.
President Xi Jinping is ready to fight back hard if the US
counterpart - Donald Trump wants a trade war. We're told that
due to Trump's approach the
trade dispute won't be resolved quickly despite Trump's
optimistic tweets.

I suggest you Google more on the subject yourself.
There's plenty of
recent links available that say the same thing as the
LA Times opinion piece especially over
the high-tech industry.

The facts don't change that a President who relies on threats
as a negotiating tactic will have their bluff called out.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 4:31:50 PM
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Foxy,

"Chinese leader Xi Jinping’s unexpected offer of a highly significant olive branch on tariffs suggests that Donald Trump’s unconventional and improvisational conduct of US foreign policy, while much derided, may be working. As maddening as that prospect will be for hyperventilating Trump haters, North Korean despot Kim Jong-un’s sudden change of heart in not only agreeing to meet Mr Trump but also saying he is willing to talk about denuclearisation also suggests the US President’s unique brand of threats and tweeted bluster is striking the right note — or, at least, starting to deliver results."
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 12 April 2018 6:08:50 AM
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Just a bit of information for those who like to keep up with USA politics here is a site that fact checks all manner of comments including Trumps.

Trumps record on accuracy is very low!

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

I have found this site very helpful at times.

Hope it helps.
Posted by Opinionated2, Thursday, 12 April 2018 8:05:16 AM
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OP2 and Foxy,

I am not a fan of Trump, but having studied negotiating strategies while doing my MBA, and while long-term relationships should be negotiated with mutual benefit and fairness in mind, occasionally, when one side is intransigent, things need to be shaken up.

For decades China has been given unfettered access to world markets whilst blocking off and charging tariffs on incoming goods, safe in the knowledge that western governments were reluctant to raise tariffs.

Trump's bellicose behaviour has shown China that there will not be business as usual, and either it has to change or risk a hugely damaging trade war. So far it looks that China has blinked, and Trump has achieved something that no one else has.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 12 April 2018 9:27:46 AM
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