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The Forum > General Discussion > TRUMP INVITES PUTIN TO THE WHITE HOUSE.- GOOD THING OR NOT?

TRUMP INVITES PUTIN TO THE WHITE HOUSE.- GOOD THING OR NOT?

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Hasbeen, how can you tell Foxy has left leaning specks on when you suffer total rightwing blinded itis in both eyes...lmao

Anyone who thinks Trump is doing a good job must be asleep...lol

There are several complexities to the Trump invite.

Whilst, a reasonably intelligent President of the USA, might have some objectives...Trump isn't that type of President...lol

Most people in the West, except Hasbeen, would see Trump as nothing but high risk.

His son once said... “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump Jr. said at the time. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/02/15/donald-trumps-ties-russia-go-back-30-years/97949746/

Now anyone who knows anything about Russia, except Hasbeen, realises that nothing gets done without Putin's approvals. The Trump businesses has been getting Putin approved Oligarch moneys for years...Some even alledge Russian mob moneys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrJzf6eUSWA

So with current investigations ongoing all this detail will come out because you just have to follow the money and the trails are apparently very clear.

Trump doesn't criticise Putin because after Trump's presidency is over, and if he isn't in jail, the Trumpsters will still need that source of finance.

Is Trump trying to protect his post-Presidency businesses?

The problem is so much power is vested in the President...It is scary.

Can anyone, even Hasbben, trust Trump? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/01/02/president-trump-has-made-1949-false-or-misleading-claims-over-347-days/?utm_term=.7810e704c687

Trump is no national security expert, probably more a complete and utter unprepared novice, and he ignores those employed by the USA, who specialise in this field, undermining them every day.

So the question is does the USA need to be subjected to such a risky meeting? Putin would out think Trump all day everyday.

The meeting will happen because Trump is out of control but nothing good will come of it.

It has been said that the chlorine gas attack in Syria this week was emboldened by Trump saying he wants to get out of Syria. To any thinking person except Hasbeen who doesn't think, this would seem a distinct possibility.
Posted by Opinionated2, Monday, 9 April 2018 9:35:03 PM
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Hi Foxy,

Dialog between leaders is always a good thing, hopefully if nothing else it gives them the chance to meet, and possibly see the other guy is also human. However if the 6 o'clock news should show the pair having a punch up on the White House lawn, then we could be in trouble. On the political smartness meter Putin is 10 points ahead of Trump, and I think a better street brawler as well, so The Donald might be in trouble on both counts.

The Trump/Putin relationship is interesting, they are in many ways very much alike. Putin defiantly supported Trump for the White House.

The real interesting one is going to be the meeting between The Donald and Cousin Kimmy in North Korea. I can just see it now;

The Donald to Kimmy; "I love dim sims! and I can see you're a real dim sim.

Kimmy to an Aid (in Korean); "Who dis shot head? Nuke New York!...NOW!

End of meeting.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 5:30:28 AM
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Mr Trump is fond of blowing his own trumpet , and I am fond of hearing it.
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 6:46:29 AM
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It's great to read the various contributions.

I've been doing more reading on the subject
and researching the opinions of various
journalists who have covered both Putin in
Moscow and Trump in Washington to see what
their take on things is.

I've come across the link listed below which
I found interesting and well worth a read:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/04/09/julia-ioffe-global-politico-217835

Julia Ioffe, we're told is a Russian born reporter, one of the
few to have covered both Putin's Moscow and Trump's
Washington. And she writes that she's scared.

She writes - "I'm very scared." "The reason I'm scared is because...
in the Cold War there were kind of protocols and rules developed
and lines of communication, and there were just - the way things
were done... Now, you have two guys Trump and Putin who are both
painted into a corner, strategically, both at home and geopolitically, who are very prideful.
Both very kind of emotional
knee-jerk decision makers, to an extent and I worry that they're
both going to start clawing their way out of their respective
corners and that that's going to lead to a lot of collateral
damage."

"In a confrontation she argues Putin may well prove a smarter
actor on the world stage than the American President,
who had started out hoping to be friends.
You know this isn't his first rodeo and
this is not his first US President, whereas Trump is still kind of
getting his sea legs. And this is kind of the built-in advantage
of an autocratic system, where Putin knows how to do all this, and
he's kind of a better tactician and kind of a better strategist.
Putin's going to outmaneuver Trump and the US."

There's more on the link.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 12:07:36 PM
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Dear Diver Dan,

But when the sound is gone all we are left with is hot air.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 12:24:23 PM
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Foxy,

As the saying goes, better jaw-jaw than war-war. Talks don't always end in agreement, but they do improve understanding even with North Korea.

Given that Russia has supported Assad through roughly 130 chemical weapons attacks and that Trump is almost certain to authorise a military assault, a face to face meeting is probably far overdue.

Putin outmanoeuvred Obama because he could count on Obama wimping out, perhaps Trump's unpredictability will make Putin rethink the risks of his belligerent actions.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 1:07:02 PM
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