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The Forum > General Discussion > Will the new Deputy PM stand by his opinion of Climate Science?

Will the new Deputy PM stand by his opinion of Climate Science?

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Hi Ttbn,

Oh dear, irony is wasted on the young :(

But how else can you explain the extreme cold across Europe ? After all, x-x = 0 and there must be balance in world climate. I'll bet some of those polar bears are dying - right now ! - from heat stress. And hunger. Walruses will be boiling in their blubber. That's what new photos will show, and how can you disagree with photos ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 4 March 2018 9:33:00 AM
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Ttbn,

And this proves it:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/north-pole-thaw-1.4554864

It reports that the entire North Pole has thawed ! All thousand feet of it ! Briefly, there was no ice at all at the North Pole ! Further south, the economy of the Canadian Inuit, who depend entirely on traditional hunting, will somehow be devastated. Warmth in such environments is a disaster !

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 4 March 2018 9:40:08 AM
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… and “Polar bears keep thriving even as global warming alarmists keep pretending they're dying”, according to Susan Crockford, Professor of zoology at the University of Victoria, British Columbia and author of works on the 'Holocene history of Arctic animals'.

She says, “Bears are flourishing, making them PHONY icons, and FALSE IDOLS, for global warming alarmists”. The predicted 67% decrease in bears did not happen; in fact, their numbers have been stable or slightly improved. 2016-17 seal numbers have been good, and it is seal pups that the polar bears have been feeding on. The bears have been getting enough food to eat in Spring that they can survive even a longer than normal summer without food. Some bears were slimmer than they were in the 1980s – as reported – but there is no evidence them starving or being to thin to reproduce.

However, starving has always been the leading natural cause of death (well before the climate hysteria took hold), but this is mainly due injury, tooth decay and illness. Baffin Island videos showing emaciated bears convinced only the gullible that only hundreds of bears are left. Studies show that there were 22,000 to to 31,000 bears in 2015, with more recent counts adding a further 2,500 that number.

Not bad, when a 67% loss in polar bears was predicted by the catastropharians
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 4 March 2018 2:25:58 PM
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I hope PM Shorten puts the boot into the liars and kicks them to death.
Royal commissions into IPA/Mudroch/limited news influence, the murray fiasco, various rorts and trough feeding, mr potatohead and everything he does, the NBN disaster, banks, business donations/bribes, the caymans, cash and the AFP, wages, robodebt, job network scam, vocational education scam/tafe destruction et al.
Ending in numerous convictions and jail time.
Then the right can be represented by hanson and bernadi and other heartless nutjobs and bigots and never darken te seats of power ever again.

Come on Bill remember 1975, serf choices, turc, kill bill.
They deserve it.
Posted by mikk, Sunday, 4 March 2018 6:05:05 PM
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Susan Crockford has been associated with think-tank the Heartland Institute, which strongly denies climate change, and spoke at one of its conferences as recently as last spring.

She has published notes and “briefings” through a conservative think tank, the Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF), and is described by them as “an expert on polar bear evolution.”

Considering she she has published almost no peer-reviewed research on polar bears and hasn't done any field studies I wonder where she gets her information?
She appears to cherry-pick data from research and deliberately omits anything that doesn't agree with her "findings".

Crockford says polar bear numbers remain strong and suggests the bears will be able to adapt to changes in sea ice. (So she admits sea ice is changing?)

Most scientists say that while some populations are doing fine, others — especially southern ones — are increasingly unhealthy. They say all populations risk sudden collapse once sea ice shrinks too much.

There was an increase in numbers a while ago due to bans on hunting because artic bears were listed as endangered species due to the effects of global warming.

Crockford is just a paid mouthpiece for denialists using junk science to mislead and misrepresent data and (cute and cuddly) Polar Bear populations are being used as a proxy to attempt to discredit all climate science by association.

Lies always spread faster than truth.
Posted by rache, Monday, 5 March 2018 12:09:28 AM
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"Lies always spread faster than truth".

They sure do! That's why the AGW lie took hold. It was the big lie that people were too lethargic to cotton onto and destroy it. Shonky scientists lied to get grants, and once they started lying, they had to keep lying to bring in the dough.

Rachel is one of the useful idiots who has fallen for the lies and is helping them out.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 5 March 2018 9:07:35 AM
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