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Is drinking alcohol a sin?

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Philip S, a long time ago I seen an ad on the telly for 'Black Cat' Chocolates, where a rather sexy looking woman proclaimed eating such a delight was "sinful", because you couldn't stop at one. And that was from the mod flogging them, so sin can't be all that bad. Well it was not for a wet behind the ears new boy in town, out to sample the delights the big smoke had to offer, such as I once was.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 23 December 2017 11:47:21 PM
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NathanJ,

You need to be asking yourself what possible motives some charismatic religious dude has when he spruiks a fundamentalist and therefore a deliberately narrowed and selective, reading of the Bible.

Why does he presume to do that and what is in it for him? Lets have no pretense that such men and their followers are not flirting with cultism. Also that such creeps focus on the vulnerable, the health and emotionally compromised. But this rogue will make you feel far worse and that 'sin' stuff is to get a rope on you, to jig you about.

I am led to believe that it is only in comparatively recent times as far as the Bible is concerned that it has been read literally by some. But that destroys its usefulness as a source of stories to moralise over and for some hope in dealing with the existential angst that is the other, inescapable side of being alive and mortal.

Maybe that points to a task for the Xmas period and the New Year, to read some authoritative texts on theology. When did that literal reading start and who was the manipulative SOB?

As for the question, 'Is drinking alcohol a sin', I rather suspect you are not reading the Bible to moralise on your own life but rather to seek to interfere in others' lives, to mind others' backyards. Sadly, Australia is fast becoming a nation of envious, interfering, botherers, of people who mind others' business. -Which is the diametrical opposite of the nation of my youth. Perhaps that is because my parents and grandparents and others of that time had lived through the most awful experiences, were obliged to think for themselves and take action to provide for themselves and their family. They were always thankful and tolerant and looking out for ways to help others in practical ways. Interfering in others' backyards does seem to have emerged as part of a more comfortable, even entitled, lifestyle.

Think for yourself and develop that BS detector.
Posted by leoj, Sunday, 24 December 2017 7:32:49 AM
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Of course it is not a sin! It's pretty stupid, though, when you find out what it does to your brain, and the number of cancers it causes. Alcohol is the most dangerous drug there is. Legal. Readily available. Big money for government. There is no point to warning drinkers, though. They don't want to know.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 24 December 2017 8:29:25 AM
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ttbn,

Liver. Many believe it is only excess that damages. Damage -> scarring -> areas of liver that cannot recover and regenerate.

Maybe moderation in all things.

The problem is though that our bodies incl brain cannot possibly change to suit the environment (and inducements) in which we find ourselves. Lots of calorie dense highly processed food and a comfortable lifestyle. Biggest problem is that we are not moving enough. A standing-up walking machine to power the 'puter that is limited to max of 2 hrs a day? ;)

Take heart though that many councils are giving us helpful nudges, option to take steps for instance.
Posted by leoj, Sunday, 24 December 2017 8:50:23 AM
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Some of the cancers known to be caused by alcohol:

Liver, mouth, tongue, throat, oesophagus, breast cancer, bowel cancer.

And of course, the immediate effect it has on the brain – just one drink. 'Wet brain' is the eventual result of long term consumption of alcohol. I know of one case where a drinker was misdiagnosed with Alzheimer's. He stopped drinking and, voila, no Alzheimer's.

You are drinking ethanol – same stuff that the modern combustion engine can only take 10% of before it seizes up. It tastes bad enough when you open the bottle, but to get the stuff drinkable at all, the suppliers load it with sugar and other additives dangerous to human themselves. If labelling on bottles is ever mandated, many people will suddenly become teetotallers.

Alcohol causes more crime, domestic violence and illnesses than hard, illegal drugs (after taking into account that most people don't take illegal drugs).

We have all seen stories lately about government plans to increase taxes on alcohol because of the ever-increasing problems the stuff is causing. And the trouble is not just among the young and silly. Older people are becoming problem drinkers because of boredom and the fact that the older you get, the lower your tolerance of alcohol. Alcohol is fatal to most of the conditions we get as we age.

Forget 'sin' and religion. Use common sense.

Salud! Skol! Cheers!
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:31:55 AM
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Go your way, eat your bread with joy, and drink your wine with a merry heart; for God now accepts your works.

Do not be too quick in the laying on of hands and thereby share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure. Stop drinking only water and use a little wine instead, because ofyour stomach and your frequent ailments.The sins of some men are obvious, going ahead of them to judgment; but the sins of others do not surface until later. Parallelism exists between the contaminated effects of asbestos and sin. "Because, metaphorically speaking, both produce Death ..
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 24 December 2017 10:04:18 AM
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