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Weapons Licence Renewal

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Hi there, first time poster and hope I am not asking a commonnly asked question. I HAVE searched for, but failed to find a relevant thread! My licence was due to expire on 10th September, and I duly received a renewal form from the QLD Police, with the luxury of being able to renew online, which I did. Here we are, a month down the line and I have not received a new licence. Am I missing something? My circumstances have not changed, and I do not even own a firearm yet.
Thanks in advance,

Andy
Posted by andicee, Thursday, 12 October 2017 4:33:45 PM
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Andy, I don't know the answer to your question, Since you are on a public forum asking, I'll ask a couple of questions of you.

I assume you want to own a gun(s) in the future, otherwise you wouldn't pay for a licence.

What type of, and for what purpose do you want a gun(s)?
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 13 October 2017 4:21:14 AM
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Why would you bother renewing, or even having, a firearms licence if you don't have a firearm? Why don't you ask the police? They are the the people who deal with such things. Why would you seek answers on this site, which has nothing with firearms licensing? You don't seem to be the sort of person to be trusted with firearms.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 13 October 2017 8:27:15 AM
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Hi ttbn, I agree. you and I often think alike, well how does that make you feel?
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 13 October 2017 8:41:23 AM
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Paul,

Perhaps there are such things as miracles.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 13 October 2017 8:50:02 AM
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"If you have submitted your application prior to the expiry date and you do not receive your new licence card by the time your licence expires, your licence will continue in force for a period of 42 days until such time as an authorised officer makes a determination on your application."
turn clocks back a long way
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 13 October 2017 9:09:32 AM
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andicee,

Since you may have other questions as well, as a first points of call,

http://shootersunion.com.au/contact/

and/or

Queensland SSFP
Postal: PO Box 241, Caboolture QLD 4510
Telephone:Jacob Fernance (Secretary) 0401 410 950
Email: jfernance@sff.net.au
http://www.shootersfishersandfarmers.org.au/contact

What you need to do is give the Weapons Licensing a ring, because they can get a bit behind. The burden of all of that bureaucratic paperwork affects all. It is always a sore point too for people who only joined the force to collar criminals.

"Customer Telephone Enquiries Hours are from 9am until 4pm Monday to Friday. Contact 07 3015 7777"
http://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponslicensing/

If you have anything you might like to talk with others about, it is a truism that you need to be on sites where they are to be found. A LandCruiser owners site for people who know the vehicle, for example and to take another instance, camping interest sites for that recreation.

As with everything to do with government, don't let the grass grow under your fee. Get onto it now!

It is pleasing that you are one of the many thousands of good citizens who are doing the right thing. All of the very best to you.
Posted by leoj, Friday, 13 October 2017 9:32:34 AM
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Should be, "As with everything to do with government, don't let the grass grow under your feet.

-Although 'fee' is probably more relevant. Because as is typical where politicians are involved, John Howard's so-called 'initiatives' introduced a broad range of new
and high taxes (and the bureaucratic paperwork) on the thousand of reputable citizens he unfairly demonised and trashed and apparently still does.
Posted by leoj, Friday, 13 October 2017 9:38:22 AM
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For the ill-informed, one needs a licence to shoot regularly with a club, one does not need to own a firearm.

Nice too that a first-time poster gets insulted in the second reply to his post, must be a first for OLO.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 13 October 2017 10:03:19 AM
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Hi there ANDICEE...

I'd add my own support to what others herein have said, licensing people do get overwhelmed with the various applications, additions, and variations. Usually the bulk of the paper-work is handled by Public Service staff, whereas the actual approvals, denial's, or any other major variation to licensing conditions, are determined by police officers themselves.

All applications are dealt with and checked by PS staff. The actual approval itself is done, after these checks have been completed, under the signature of a police officer. Whereby if something irregular does occur, it's not the member of the PS staff who is asked to account for it, it's the approving police officer that must provide the answers, as it should be.

I trust we've all been some help to you, ANDICEE.
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 13 October 2017 10:17:27 AM
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Welcome Andy,
Your request for info re firearms licencing is not that unusual as a long term poster I can assure you there is a vast range of subjects raised here.

For those that question you as to 'why' you want to renew your licence, it is none of their business. I too am a licence holder but presently do not own firearms. I can see many reasons for this.

You may have thought asking here was the quickest way to get the required info. That is fair enough as there are many with experience in all sorts of fields here. There is one poster called Is Mse, who is knowledgeable about firearms and am sure he will help you out. Hang about, he will not be far away. My knowledge of Qld bureaucracy is limited.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 13 October 2017 10:20:06 AM
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Come on Issy, thin skined, there is nothing insulting in ttbn's post. Just posted an opinion which he is entitled to do. He only drew a conclusion from the unusual nature of a new members post and the fact "Andy" started off with a discussion thread, which this site has nothing to do with. If he returns he can post a reply.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 13 October 2017 10:21:23 AM
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" You don't seem to be the sort of person to be trusted with firearms."

A massive assumption and an insult.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 13 October 2017 11:10:53 AM
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Police seem very pleased when one of them has the verbal skill to talk to a siege suspect and bring him in alive . Normally it's "drop the weapon" bang dead . Not even a shoulder wound , but vital-organ fatal. Do new cops have to explain how much kick they enjoy from pulling triggers at citizens?
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 13 October 2017 11:16:16 AM
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Is Mise,

You are feeling insulted on the behalf of someone else. Very presumptuous of you is it not? You cannot possible know whether another person - particularly someone you don't know - feels insulted or not. You might find that you have insulted him by assuming that he is wet enough to be insulted by what I said. You are beginning to sound like an old Lefty with guns: even praising the ABC recently :) If this no-gun licencee feels insulted, he can say so for himself, and I would probably say 'stiff cheese', or something like it, if I could be bothered.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 13 October 2017 11:55:50 AM
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Just talking about paperwork and bureaucracy, John Howard has never paid respect to his political opponents whose voluminous draft guidelines were in some State bureaucrat's drawer (NSW), to be lifted out and dusted off as new ministers appeared, but always quickly dismissed as a crock of *bleep*, the errant bureaucrat spanked and the dog-eared folios returned to the cobwebs.

But in haste John Howard took it and once he had done that the master politician in him would have seen hell freeze over before he admitted any mistake.

To give an example of how ill-directed, clunky, bureaucratically hide-bound procedural and labor intensive they are (and as an example of ex-Treasurer John Howard's love of new and bigger taxes), forms could not be downloaded or completed online. There were many new forms forms (99% duplicate info to be completed by hand) and an applicant had to present personally with ID at the local police station where someone in uniform with presumably nothing better to do (thanks JH!) had find the form on the system and print it, ceremoniously handing it over to the applicant for completion and a similar return, while handling a till for Howard's new taxes as well (the experienced know and are kind to bring exact notes and change).

Most local police stations are only manned (whoops, what will be the new PC alphabetical that replaces 'manned'?) during daylight hours and after that there may be only one patrol, one trained and a trainee, for large areas.

I quite like John Howard and he is a decent fellow with the interests of Australia at heart. I reckon that at the time of the PAM, his first concern was to save survivors and relatives, officials and volunteers too, the years of misery of clever barristers who could be expected to find umpteen technical flaws in the handling of the crime scene and forensics.

The 'gun control initiative' was a PM's call and diversion, but he was mentally overloaded and poorly advised by some influences behind the scenes, whose names may never be known and cannot be held accountable.
Posted by leoj, Friday, 13 October 2017 12:09:34 PM
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NICKNAMENICK...Sometimes your contributions appear mildly amusing, others somewhat banal; as this example of your latest presentation is, with ineffectual remarks like; '...do new cops have to explain how much kick they enjoy from pulling triggers at citizens...'? So very clever of you NICKNAMENICK.
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 13 October 2017 1:02:54 PM
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ttbn,

An insult is an insult, so be man enough to apologize.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 13 October 2017 1:22:00 PM
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o sung wu
It's a simple , sensible question.
"Oct 2, 2013 - A 21-year-old Rural Fire Service volunteer has been charged with arson, accused of lighting 10 fires on the New South Wales central coast."
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 13 October 2017 1:25:10 PM
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Is Mise,

Get a grip. No insult was given, and we don't even know if one was taken. Your third party offence is pathetic. Perhaps you have reached as stage where you should be thinking of getting rid of all those unnecessary guns. Your judgement is suss.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 13 October 2017 2:22:07 PM
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Further, Is Mise, you are the one being insulting by suggesting that a third party is too delicate a flower to accept that they will not always hear things they like. You are just like today's politicians: removing people's freedom of thought and action by by nannying them and making them more dependent and less able to deal with the rough and tumble of real life.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 13 October 2017 2:56:00 PM
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Wow! To those posting helpful comments, I thank you. For your support too, however, I am big and ugly enough to defend myself. I'm not insulted, as to take insult from a comment, made by some no name, low-life, who feels the need to stick his nose in and comment, on a subject they admittedly know nothing about, would indicate a level of low intelligence on my behalf. To even waste their time posting suggests to me that they are the "type" of person who has nothing better to do. See what I did there? Made an assumption based on your comments! I clearly stumbled into the wrong forum, and will look elsewhere.
Andy
Posted by andicee, Friday, 13 October 2017 3:15:49 PM
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//I clearly stumbled into the wrong forum, and will look elsewhere.//

Nah, pay no attention to ttbn. He's a just a cranky old man with a limp dick and no mates.

I have no answers to your question, because it's not my field. But don't let one sad wee shite dissuade from the forum.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 13 October 2017 3:45:02 PM
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Hi (again) ANDICEE...

I did try to answer your question my friend. I was a Licensing police sergeant, and explained how the job is done. Admittedly how it operated in NSW, not Queensland. Nevertheless I should think the process is the same in any State in Australian. As a police officer, when appointed to the Licensing Branch, you're in fact conferred with the powers as the; 'Commissioners Delegate'. under the F/A ACT, and I'd be most surprised if all States didn't operate in a similar fashion. As I said earlier, I hope it helps you.
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 13 October 2017 4:29:21 PM
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aha . Be wary of armed, celibate firemen:
" OKCatholic Jun '09
The psych eval isnít bad.. My archdiocese has a psychiatrist we send all of our potential seminarians to (who also evaluates applicants to the police academy, highway patrol, firefighters, etc.). We met in his office and he asked very simple questions about my life, interests, hobbies, activities, childhood.. . Then the psychiatrist and I just talked about the Church and about seminary and priestly life. .. My final evaluation was formulated by the psychiatrist and sent to the vocations office. . Better than the physical exam. That I didnít care for."
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 13 October 2017 4:34:50 PM
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Hi Andy,
"I'm not insulted, as to take insult from a comment, made by some no name, low-life, who feels the need to stick his nose in and comment, on a subject they admittedly know nothing about, would indicate a level of low intelligence on my behalf."

Mate. I think you're going to fit in just fine.
Welcome to the forum.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 14 October 2017 12:31:33 AM
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ttbn, you may have fallen into a trap, I don't know. As for "Andy" could be Australia's answer to who? Getting a lot of helpful "how to" advice from the lads, again I don't know, nor do they. "Andy" now indicates he is taking his bat and ball and going to another playground <<I (Andy) clearly stumbled into the wrong forum, and will look elsewhere.>>
Anyone is welcome to throw in their two cents worth here, the forum is a free world, and as the French would say Au Revoir "Andy".
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 14 October 2017 2:57:15 AM
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Paul,

Don't know about any trap. Copped one of Lavis's regular foul-mouthed smears. He has a thing about other mens' dicks. Hope Andy enjoys the weekend playing with bang bangs. Is Mise too, if he can get his foot out of his mouth. I'm off to the bush until next week. No wi fi. Might meet some sane people.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 14 October 2017 4:27:11 AM
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"I'm off to the bush until next week"

Enjoy yourself. I am jealous and a bit annoyed with myself that the last couple of years I haven't taken full advantage of the colder months to go West. Time to think again about that jar with the pebbles and sand, getting the priorities straight.

One of the reasons I used to get away often was my interest in photography. However, I now find it a burden to be carrying bulky gear. Or is it more the problem of protecting it? There are 'tea leaves' everywhere, a modern curse. Must start mooching around for a compact with rangefinder to fit a large pocket.
Posted by leoj, Saturday, 14 October 2017 10:40:08 AM
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Hi there TTBN & LEOJ...

Ah love the bush, especially out in the Broken Hill area, Silverton and environs. I'm not a great photographer, but I have a distinct fondness for a group or artists aptly named the 'Brush-Men of the Bush, most of them were located at the 'Hill'. Chief among them is/was the late Pro HART with his vivid colours, and very 'blue' blues and earthen ground features. Then there's Geo. KENDELL; Howard Wm. STEER with is brilliant 'Flying Doctor' series, to mention but a few.

Please don't get me wrong, I know squat about art, only what I like, and in my opinion many of our Aussie Artists are as good as you'll get anywhere within the parameters of their individual styles. Look at the works of Tom ROBERTS, utterly brilliant. While it's true whenever you mention the great masters, most think of Europe; de VINCI; MICHELANGELO; RAPHAEL; GAINSBOROUGH; AND VELAZQUEZ, to mention just a few, I don't think we're doing too badly given what a young Nation we really are? I was most fortunate to travel to some of the great Galleries of the world to see the works of some of these fabled Masters.

I was a relieving sergeant in the bush for awhile, and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. A great learning curve, and I learnt so much from our indigenous people, especially about the difficulties they have with their young. A high suicide rate unfortunately. Much of it precipitated by chronic unemployment, excessive alcohol, substance abuse (petrol, kero & glue) and illicit use of opiates. While domestic violence was rampant among many of them, a major problem from these greatly mis-understood and enormously proud Australians? Every copper should do at least six months in the bush! With his eyes and ears wide open - and his mouth firmly glued shut!

Please enjoy yourself TTBN, and we'll no doubt speak with you again on your return.
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 14 October 2017 12:33:47 PM
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o sung wu,

Nothing like looking at those stars at night. Or breakfast with scalding brew.

I did a lot of solo camping and bushwalking. Vehicle to somewhere I could leave it out of sight due to some natural feature anyhow. Basic camping even back then. Simple. Practical. Enjoyable. To be honest, even when someone wanted to come along it was the same as I found with boat sea fishing, that I couldn't put up with having to take care of them as well.

Although a lot of my camping in less remote locations was with women. They were far more reliable for sticking to the arrangement to go and more willing to try something new too. There is something about some women that given a few necessary comforts, easily done, they take to the bush or beach camping and isolation very well. A pleasure to let it all hang out as it were, do a bit of their private thing too, maybe wildflower spotting and just be themselves, to recharge.

Great days and 'sort of' still available.
Posted by leoj, Saturday, 14 October 2017 1:59:51 PM
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Hi there LEOJ...

You're so right Leo, when you speak of getting back to the basics. In essence I'm not a person who's all that comfortable with camping, rather I'm very much a softie. I do like the fresh air, the vista's, forestry conditions, and the virgin bush. But I do have a real insurmountable fear of 'joe blakes' venomous or otherwise. Spider's that are similarly endowed; naw they don't frighten me in the least. But snakes do, absolutely they do.

To say I have a phobia about snakes would be an understatement. In a Thai snake farm, back in the mid 1960's when on a week's Military R & R, just a mere seven days, or to be precise as the CSM quaintly put it, 168 hours and not a minute more. Far too little time to go home to Sydney. So we all opted out for Thailand instead, with all it's other peculiar 'attractions'?

The first of which was this large snake and croc. farm, with all these highly venomous snakes, including the large, singularly venomous King Cobra. Accordingly we were informed if we were to stroke the thing just behind it's head, we'd have good luck for the rest of our lives? Well stroke it I did, and I'm still here to tell the tale as it were? However I spent a week, thoroughly cleaning my shorts after the event I must admit?

The Thai jungle particular on the Malay/Thai Border region, is so thick and impenetrable, you'd not believe it, you really wouldn't. The place is alive with all manner of fauna and flora, the floral was growing wild, and as such was utterly breathtaking, but the place was full of hidden dangers as well. Plonk a 4 Star Hotel somewhere there, I'd be content. Anything less and I'd be on alert! Enjoy your break LEOJ.
Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 16 October 2017 4:24:46 PM
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