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America; too many guns - far too many massacres: What can they do about it?

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OSW,

It's pretty hard to copy the horror of the U.S situation because the weapons involved are not legally available here. That's the problem in America, fully automatic military-style weapons. I think that our laws are unnecessarily harsh, but we have never been able to have the sort of firearms the Yanks do, and that's why we don't have regular massacres. Howard's reaction to the only one-lunatic incident in Tasmania was way over the top, and I cannot blame Americans for not wanting to go down that road. All they need to do is ban all firearms except sporting/target ones. It's up to them. We with our ultra-draconian gun laws have nothing to teach them. We should be embarrassed that Howard did what he did to law-abiding shooters and got away with it. His unrealistic attitude to shooters was highlighted in his stupid wearing of a bullet-proof vest. Where on earth did the fool of a man think he was!
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 7 October 2017 6:58:06 PM
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ttbn,

Well said.

General Comment,
This is a worthwhile read, referring to Australia also.

"Does the Media Cause Mass Shootings?

A growing body of research suggests that increasingly intense media coverage of mass shootings is partly responsible for their acceleration in the United States."

http://psmag.com/news/does-the-media-cause-mass-shootings
Posted by leoj, Saturday, 7 October 2017 7:13:15 PM
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ttbn,

"It's pretty hard to copy the horror of the U.S situation because the weapons involved are not legally available here. That's the problem in America, fully automatic military-style weapons"

The weapons involved are legally available here and automatic weapons in the US are strictly controlled.

See: http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/133198/FACT_SHEET_Firearm_Types_Oct_2012.pdf

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-legal-to-own-a-fully-automatic-weapon-in-the-US-Why-or-why-not
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 7 October 2017 7:24:32 PM
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Proof that democracy is dead and the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
http://refusefascism.org/the-call-to-action-drive-out-the-trumppence-regime/

Have a good look over this website.
These people are at war with America.
They have no respect for the democratic outcome of the past election.
The wish to destroy the constitution and any semblance of the good country which once existed.
These people are well organised, their allies well ingrained into all levels of government, civil society and the corporate media.
This is coming socialist / communist revolution and US civil war.
They have an agenda and they wont allow Trump or the voters that democratically put him there to make back steps.

- And it's probably exactly what the deep state architects want.

If you support democracy, you better have a rethink.
Trumps support of the second amendment is what got him elected.
And the left and the deep state are just trying to disarm the public / stir up civil unrest that can later be blamed on conservatives before they go to war with America.

Oh and btw, the shooter was apparently radicalised and connected to ISIS and Antifa, and if that's not true, then they are covering up something even worse.
The official story is falling apart on this shooting.
Google and Facebook are censoring anyone who expresses their right to free speech and questions the official narrative.
Antifa? It's a fascist America BECAUSE of the left.
Stupid muppets
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 7 October 2017 7:25:05 PM
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Hillary Clinton's MO is to accuse others of doing that which she is guilty of, and to keep pushing a lie for so long until everyone accepts it.
She learned this from her mentor Saul Alinsky.
If you wish to understand Hillary Clinton, and understand what's happening in the world read 'Rules for Radicals' by Saul Alinsky.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

Until you people figure this out and understand the tactics and games, then we're all totally screwed.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 7 October 2017 7:31:14 PM
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leoj,

The media is not helpful, at best. I sometimes think we could do with less information, certainly the sensationalist crap that gives coverage to nutters and gives latent nutters ideas.

Is Mise,

I tried to download your reference, but I didn't like the 'deny or allow' notice. I was not aware that fully automatic military weapons were available here, but you are are more into guns than I am these days, so I'll take your word for it, but I find it very disappointing if it is the case.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 7 October 2017 9:12:04 PM
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