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Corbyn and the new delusion.

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Dear Shadow Minister,

I did not realise that The Guardian newspaper was
a left-wing source. I don't make those sort of
judgements. I go by the content and - the relative
studies undertaken. What was listed in The
Guardian was apparently taken from
a variety of sources. Also Googling the issues the other
sources supported what The Guardian was saying.

You should in future specific what sources
are unacceptable in your discussions so that we would
know not to waste our time responding.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:17:49 AM
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Dearest Foxy,

You confess that "I did not realise that The Guardian newspaper was a left-wing source."

I'm still partial to it as a sort of old ex-leftie, and as well I'm not all that bright, but even I would have to agree that The Guardian (and Russia's The Independent as well, not to mention Putin's RT) consistently report with what passes these days for a very left-wing slant. Well, when was the last time they reported anything with a mildly right-wing slant ?

I'm not saying that they report 'fake news' but it's more what they DON'T report. Maybe The Australian goes the other way, so reading both can give a sort of balance. And surely we're grown-up enough to be able to make judgements for ourselves ? Admittedy, one can't say that for many people under, say, twenty five, but hopefully experience will be a great teacher for them too eventually.

Love,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:55:45 AM
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Dear Joe,

Actually as a librarian it's an occupational habit
to research many sources. I've been doing it all
of my life. And, as I stated earlier I do not
divide things up into labels. I go for the content
that is well researched and what makes sense to me.
You're free of course to make your own choices.
I wouldn't dream of preaching to you about what you should
do. Although I must admit I am tempted at times to tell
you what you can do (but I'm fighting that urge). It's
not polite.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 11:07:16 AM
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Dearest Foxy,

From you, it would be a beautiful balm, no matter how severe. Come on, I'm a big boy, I can take it :)

Love,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 11:28:25 AM
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Dear Joe,

It's not worth the argument.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 1:57:50 PM
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Foxy,

Firstly the articles to which you linked are opinion pieces so the claim for superior research is fictitious, and in case you have difficulty interpreting the blindingly obvious:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_United_Kingdom

The Guardian
Political leaning: Centre-left
Party support in 2015 General election: Labour Party/Green Party, liberal Democrats in marginal non-Labour seats

In a comparison of papers the Public rated the Guardian as the most left winge publication closely followed by the Mirror then the Independent.

The fact that the author of the article to which you linked considered the manifesto to be "not radical enough" in spite of including nationalisation of private businesses, vast tax hikes on businesses and the wealthy and middle classes and a huge budget deficit, should point to a deep bias.

The proof of the pudding is that most Labour candidates make any reference to the manifesto or Corbyn in any of their electioneering material, because both are vote killers.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 8:19:44 PM
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