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No to abortion in NSW

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I did see one report that it was often male pressure and breakup of a relationship that was a large cause of the women aborting. It was not always the woman's moral choice as is so often claimed. The removal of a pregnancy is never forgotten by the mother as her body changes to accommodate a healthy foetus; unlike a natural abortion, a surgical abortion causes trauma to her body.
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 14 May 2017 4:56:17 PM
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Dear Josephus,

You wrote "unlike a natural abortion, a surgical abortion causes trauma to her body."

I think that is nonsense & anti-abortion propaganda. Can you cite a medical study to back up that statement?
Posted by david f, Monday, 15 May 2017 6:27:58 PM
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I suspected it was anti-abortion propaganda, too, david f. Like the unfounded claims from Eric Abetz a couple of years ago regarding the supposed link with breast cancer.
Posted by AJ Philips, Monday, 15 May 2017 7:11:55 PM
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https://www.glowm.com/section_view/heading/Long-Term%20Risks%20of%20Surgical%20Abortion/item/440

http://americanpregnancy.org/unplanned-pregnancy/abortion-side-effects/

http://www.deveber.org/text/whealth.html

"Since the 1970s, there has been a marked increase in North America in the number of abortions and repeat abortions, which may explain the significant increases in pelvic inflammatory disease (PID), uterine hemorrhage, sepsis, pain due to endometritis, retained fetal or placental tissue".
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 8:54:10 AM
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Dear Josephus,

I looked up the links you mentioned and saw absolutely nothing to substantiate your comparison of the difference between the after effects of abortions and miscarriages. Apparently it was a comparison that you made up.

However, it does not stand to reason that a woman terminating an unwanted pregnancy should be worse off than a woman who wanted a baby and had a miscarriage.

Any invasive medical procedure carries a risk. An interrupted pregnancy whether it is a miscarriage or an abortion has effects.
However, to evaluate the after effects useful comparisons would be:

After effects of miscarriages vs. Abortions

You claimed a difference, but your references didnít substantiate your claim.

After effects of illegal vs. legal abortions.

If you make abortion illegal you are going to resurrect the backyard butcher and the knitting needle. Making abortion illegal will not get rid of abortion. Rich women can find a doctor to do it. Poorer women or desperate women will use desperate means or commit suicide as my cousin did during WW2 when she heard her boyfriend was killed in action and she found herself pregnant. If she had access to legal abortion she could have lived out her life and had babies later if she wanted them. I think of her when I hear those who inveigh against legal abortions.

After effects of giving birth when abortion has been recommended but not done vs. Abortions

After effects of giving birth vs. Abortions

Giving birth is not a risk-free procedure.

You (I assume you are one of the many men who would deny women a choice.) and I are never going to get pregnant. I think it best to let those people who can become pregnant decide what they want to do about it. They should decide for themselves whether they want to carry the pregnancy to term and if they decide not to should have a good medical option to terminate that pregnancy.
Posted by david f, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 7:35:03 PM
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https://www.earlyabortion.com/abortion-information/surgical-abortion/

Killing the foetus in the womb in early pregnancy is similar to a natural abortion, compared to surgical abortion.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 10:04:58 AM
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