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"What is not being mentioned is the elephant in the room which was the removal and sale of the C'wealth's mental health and rehab facilities that tipped so many vulnerable and marginally coping people out into the street for relatives to care for, which they couldn't manage of course."

Yep....this had a huge impact on the number homeless in our communities.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 23 May 2016 8:51:31 AM
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All this bleeding heart stuff is great. I do wonder how many of the bleeding hearts are making a good living, at our expense, from these drop kicks.

A case study. A bloke was living on a derelict boat someone had given him, on a Balmain marina mooring in the late 60s. Unemployed he had been on the dole for years. He also stank & had not used the marinas showers for years.

He cashed his dole check & paid his mooring fees at the marina, but otherwise was rarely seen, & never a problem to anyone, other than funding his dole.

A bloke from the CES in those days, came down & made him take a shower, gave him a couple of pairs of clean shorts & blue singlets, & a job to go to the next day. He was told this was the last he would get from the CES, & he could go to work or starve.

Of course this would be against his human rights today, but it worked. The bum went to work, had to shower, bought some more clothes, cleaned up his act & his boat. A few months later a lady moved in with him, then later they both disappeared into suburbia.

Like so many so call homeless bums, this bloke needed a kick up the butt, not more "help". So much bleeding heart help is totally destructive, & exactly the wrong thing to do with these people. If "helping" them was not such a good career path, & kicking bums was made a more sustainable career, there would be a lot less homeless around today.

Hard love, not more welfare is what is needed.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 23 May 2016 1:16:26 PM
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He'd be busy on the Gold Coast and hinterland. Where they spend thousands on tatts to avoid getting a job.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 23 May 2016 1:36:42 PM
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Hard love will not work every time, but too much kind love is definitely not the answer. Another case study.

Ex brother in law. Very hard working small businessman, he used to exhaust himself with long hours, & disappear for a couple of days "gone surfing" occasionally. His wife covered for him, & kept the business alive. He would come back refreshed, & roar back into it, still overdoing it.

He needed some business coaching & counselling, but what he got was mental health professional. Instead of a kick up the butt, he got bleeding heart tears. They convinced him he was a poor misunderstood fellow, who needed their help, when what he really needed was some time management training.

His disappearances grew to weeks, the business collapsed, they lost the house, & spilt up.

He has not worked since, over 9 years now, & is not required to look for work. His new girlfriend is of a similar disposition, not at all interested in working if she can bludge. They bought a small camper van, & camp mostly in the bush, at various surfing spots, keeping just enough contact to turn up for his daughters wedding.

This bloke needed just a little training, but was flooded with bleeding heart love. That was the most destructive thing that could have happened to him, & we will pay for it for the rest of his life.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 23 May 2016 1:40:57 PM
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It doesn’t sound like he got himself a very good mental health professional (Psychologist? Psychiatrist?) then, Hasbeen.

I’m not sure about psychiatrists, but if a lack of time management skills was this guy’s main problem, then a psychologist should have been able to identify that in one or two sessions, then equip him with the tools he needed to manage his time better; maybe refer him onto an Organisational Psychologist that specialises in these things, if need be.

How the heck a qualified psychologist or psychiatrist could give someone “bleeding-heart tears” (whatever they are) and think that that is a solution to anything is beyond me. And if such a professional exists, then they need to be reported to the relevant board. With malpractice like that, the guy probably could have sued for so much that he'd be able to start his business back up again.

Are you sure this isn’t just another beat-up about how bleeding-heart lefties are the cause of all the world’s ills?

Something's amiss here.
Posted by AJ Philips, Monday, 23 May 2016 3:53:57 PM
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So if a person pisses their life away and becomes addicted to drugs, is this person really societies problem. Sorry, but you build your nest, you lie in it.

We already pay enough in taxes and, if governments cant distribute those taxes in an efficient manner, then that's not our problem. Any wonder people avoid paying taxes, because they are wasted in many areas.

Any clues where the funding for the 27,000 per year, many of which are illiterate in their own language is going to come from?
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 3:55:07 PM
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