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George Soros in the News

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Dear ArmchairCritic,

Aidan has summed things up beautifully.

I first read about George Soros in Tor Hundloe's
book, "From Buddha to Bono: Seeking Sustainability."
This book traces the development of the three key
disciplines underpinning modern environmental decision
making, otherwise known as sustainability science:
ecology, economics and ethics.

It illustrates how these
disciplines, singularly and in concept will need to be
applied in the 21st century if true sustainability is
to be achieved. It also explores the ideas of the
great thinkers and activists who have helped put sustainability
on the cultural and political map.

The author of the book - Professor Tor Hundloe in 2003, was the first
Australian recognised by the award of an Order of Australia
for his development and practice of an economics in line with
ecological reality and ethical imperatives.

Hundloe opens up the world to anyone wanting to better understand
how we got into the mess we're in - and how to get out of it.
The book is worth a read if you can get hold of a copy.
I bought mine several years ago.

Hundloe writes: "There is no reason that a human-centred ethic could
not encompass human concerns for the planet as a whole."

Regarding George Soros part of what Hundloe has to say is:

" In conclusion, I shall turn to a person most known as a
financial speculator(however, a well-read and wise one) to
encapsulate the ideas that humans have worked so hard and
long to develop, and now more than ever will have to rely on, to
build a just and sustainable global human society. Let us not
forget that this project was begun by the ancient Greeks, was
re-established by the Enlightenment thinkers ... Here's what George
Soros has to say:

cont'd ...
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 19 May 2016 11:04:48 AM
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cont'd ...

" The Enlightenment constituted a giant step forward ...
Allowing reason to decide what is true and false, what
is right and wrong, was a tremendous innovation. It
marked the beginning of modernity ...The ideas of the
philosophers of the Enlightenment have become ingrained
in our way of thinking. The rule of reason, the supremacy
of science, the universal brotherhood of man... The
political,, social and moral values of the Enlightenment
were admirably stated in the US Declaration of Independence,
and that document continues to be an inspiration for people
throughout the world...Instead of accepting tradition tradition
as the ultimate authority, the Enlightenment subjected tradition
to critical examination. The results were exhilarating. The
creative energies of human intellect were unleashed."

Tor Hundloe writes:

"Reason, the supremacy of science, and the universal brotherhood of
humans are the pillars on which we can build a better future.
That George Soros should laud the Enlightenment for its
achievements, and for foundations it has given us in our quest for
sustainability, proves that a business-person as much as an
ecological scientist or a moral philosopher can willingly embrace the
three E's of sutainability - ecology, economics, and ethics."

Of course - we have seen that people in different walks of life
may interpret the same phenomenon - whether it is an international
business man, a federal budget, a religious doctrine or the issued
of gun-control in very different ways. People are influenced by
their beliefs, values, ethics, politics, and experience. In
other words they tend to see the world from a viewpoint of
subjectivity.

The truth of the matter is that what we see in the world in not
determined by what exists "out there." It is shaped by what our
past experience has prepared us to see and by what we
consciously or unconsciously want to see. We are all guilty of
some measure of bias especially in issues whose subject matter
involves issues of deep human and moral concerns.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 19 May 2016 11:28:26 AM
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Beach, the only silly stuff is your pathetic attemps to link The Greens with some sinister international people and organsations.

According to you "There are persistent allegations that NSW's Trotskyist 'Watermelon' Greens have undisclosed links with highly secretive, 'secret squirrel' 'gun control', Soros and other overseas interests behind it.

Persistent allegations by who? YOU!... You simply make it up as you go.

You wont answer my facts as presented. Not allegations, FACTS!

Beach; you would support The Shooters Party and the Sporting Shooters’ Association of Australia. Would you not.

I present the following as fact. Is anything I posted about Mr Malcolm David Fuller untrue. This is what Australians should be concerned with, not your scurrilous nonsense against The Greens.

Please explain the links between the Shooter Party (Australia), the Sporting Shooters’ Association of Australia (SSAA), and international gun dealers and associations who have poured tens of thousands of dollars into election campaigns in Australia, advertising and political lobbying. International gun dealers are members or former members of The Shooters Party board.
Please explain the links between the ultra right, the powerful American National Rifle Association, and its funding of The Sporting Shooters’ Association of Australia.
Mr Malcolm David Fuller, was the NSW secretary and “registered officer” of the national Shooters’ Party, he was also managing director of Australia’s largest gun importer, which brought in a large quantity of Chinese SKS assault rifles, one of the two types of weapon used by the Tasmanian mass murderer Martin Bryant.

Of course you wont answer any of this, as you know it to be true, and it don't suit your narrative.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 19 May 2016 11:55:34 AM
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Paul1405,

As you would be well aware from my posts I have never been a member of any political party and nor am I aligned with any. That is all your narrative, not mine.

Law-abiding people with licences owning registered firearms are not the problem and never were.

However, it is precisely these thousands of reputable, responsible good citizens who can be relied upon to always do the right thing that YOUR NSW 'Watermelon' Greens are so offended by and wilfully slander, deliberately conflating them and their legal firearms with the offending SOBs (and their illegal guns) that YOUR Greens so avidly protect the 'rights' of.

You are in denial and being tricky. Of course the Greens talk the talk and walk the walk of 'gun control' and they never stop talking about bans. Bans that only affect the law-abiding. Because offenders don't buy legal, don't register, don't get licences (they would be laughed at) and they certainly don't possess their guns for any legal purpose.

Why would the Greens slag honest, respectable people and deny them their rights to lawful ownership, recreation and sports, while at the same time the Greens and Labor are falling over their own feet to trash the effective Vicious Lawless Association Disestablishment Act (VLAD), that sent criminal gangs packing from Queensland? It doesn't make sense does it?

BTW, why is 'gun control' so secret squirrel about their membership, sources of funds and contacts? What have they got to hide?
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 19 May 2016 12:38:16 PM
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Hi Aiden,
We can agree to disagree.
I think playing down the likes of George Soros is akin to playing down the likes of taking the night off and having your children babysat by pedophiles.

You may think open borders are great.
Tell that to all the women and kids who've been raped by out of control refugees.

As for 'Black Lives Matter', you can't cure racism by being racist.
George Soros knows this will cause civil unrest, and that's his aim.
I support 'All Lives Matter' and those who don't are just useful idiots being played for the fools they are.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 19 May 2016 6:43:43 PM
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Hey Foxy,
I don't have any objection to reasoned rational thinking or sustainability as a general idea or concept.

The problem I have is that others would use 'sustainability' as a vehicle to bring global socialism and fascism on such a global scale that the planets inhabitants may never escape from.

Just remember that 'sustainability' also means 'global depopulation' so if you support this, then you must accept that your decision may eventually push us to make decisions on who lives and who dies.

With 'sustainability' may also come 'death panels'.
Elderly folks use up 90% of health costs in the last 3months of life.
They may decide that its better and cheaper to give you the euthanasia shot instead, and use the resources elsewhere, in the name of 'economic sustainability'.

I'm not saying it to be nasty, the world isn't what it appears to be.
I just want you to understand that many of the things that appear to be good and innocent are in fact Trojan horses meant to trick us, whilst ultimately controlling and enslaving us.

All I want to say is 'Be very careful what you wish for.'

I don't want to have to say 'I told you so', I'm trying to protect and inform all of you, and prevent us from being mislead and making foolish choices with the future of our country.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/22267-un-agenda-2030-a-recipe-for-global-socialism
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 19 May 2016 7:37:25 PM
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