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What was Cronulla?

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Toni, please don't mention the war, Basil Fawlty did, but he got away with it, so he said. These guys would like us to think they are simply some good folk, rather reasonable moderate people, just out to protect our interests. Mention "FAR RIGHT", it still conjures up images of Hitler and concentration camps, mass extermination of innocent people, not a good look for these "nice folk"."CENTRE LEFT", now that conjures up images of Mother Teresa and fields of daffodils, masses of little children frolicking at play. Now what image would they rather project?

Toni, a blast from the past, on the UPF bus to Bendigo was none other than Ross 'The Skull' May, a well known Sydney Neo-Nazi and head kicker, maybe 'The Skull' was sitting next to Jay, discussing "centre left" politics. Seems, May was too much for them to drop on the good folk of Bendigo, so they dropped him off short of town, and presumably he had to walk in.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 18 December 2015 9:17:51 AM
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Paul,
No what actually happened was that nobody on that UPF bus knew who Ross May and his mate were, when someone asked him and then Googled his name they realised and booted them off somewhere along the Hume.
UPF is a Melbourne based group, there are about half a dozen men here, one in Perth, one in Brisbane and one in Bendigo and a few dozen people in each city who turn out regularly to the events they organise.
If you go to their Facebook page and actually watch their videos you'll see that what they're proposing is basically old Labor values, more like the old ACTU Maoist faction than anything.
Mate if the UPF were promoting racism don't you think they'd have been pulled in under section 18c by now?
Islam is a merely a rhetorical diving line to split the nominally "White" population into an "us" and a "them", those who submit and those who won't,it's really got nothing to do with Muslims in a broad sense.
We the followers set out to challenge and confront the wowsers, the squares and the people who scurry about with their heads in their phones all day, Muslims are a strong, dynamic network of ethnic groups, we aim to build up the Australians to that level.

Toni, I've no idea if the UPF expressed support for XA or not, if such a move offends people like you then I'm all for it, if people like you keep calling us Nazis and ordinary working class people keep turning up to the rallies it'll work in our favour, so please, by all means keep it up.
The bulk of the reporting on the UPF by Fairfax has been exposed as a malicious prank by a person posing as a journalist named "Luke McMahon". McMahon is the pseudonym of an "Anarchist" internet hoaxer, unidentified to this day who has played numerous tricks on the mainstream media including the hilarious "Underground Dole Army" story from the early 2000's.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 18 December 2015 10:40:33 AM
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//if such a move offends people like you then I'm all for it//

Really? You're happy to claim solidarity with a criminal neo-nazi group just because it offends people who don't like neo-nazis (which last time I checked was pretty much everybody except neo-nazis and the UPF)? Oh well, whatever floats your boat.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 18 December 2015 10:56:58 AM
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Toni,
Theres' no such thing as a Neo Nazi and people who have a firm grip on reality understand that at no point in history has anyone successfully taken something from the past and brought it into the present, that's commonly called time travel and barring further scientific developments it's still very much a fantasy.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 18 December 2015 2:48:04 PM
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"Neo-Nazism" has a clear meaning, it means applying to the circumstances of the present day the "principles" of party and social organisation espoused by Hitler in "Mein Kampf" and practised by the German state from 1933 to 1945. A marker that characterises (but doesn't define) neo-Nazism is obsessive anti-Semitism (real, not the dog whistle used by the Zionists) and the assertion that the worth of human beings and the basis for closing ranks with them is defined by their genetic ancestry. A further marker for neo-Nazis is their nostalgia for the symbolism of the German enemy before and during their failed war of conquest. See for example http://www.anp14.com/about/index.php.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Friday, 18 December 2015 3:39:33 PM
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Julian,
You'd be surprised how many of those Nazi fetishists turn out to be Gay, Jewish or mixed race, but no they're not the "New Nazis" and they're no threat to anyone. In the U.S they exist primarily as an intelligence pool for the FBI and BATF to infiltrate gangs and collect information on people for firearms and drug violations, they're like a honey pot for outlaws and all sorts of sketchy characters.
Guys like Ross May have always worked for the state, in the 1970's he used to bash "Commos", nowadays him and his mate Tyler work with the Liberal party trying to infiltrate and disrupt nationalist groups and community organisations opposed to out of control foreign property development and such like.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 18 December 2015 5:07:28 PM
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