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What was Cronulla?

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If women were being harassed by Moslems because of the way they were dressed at the beach it was about Islam.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 7:17:57 PM
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Julian,
No, the problem was with Lebanese men, on the day of the civil disobedience the crowd were chanting F-off Lebs!
It was not a riot.
It had nothing to do with religion.
Alchohol consumption was not a significant aggravating factor on the day.
Only a very small number of people in the 5000 strong crowd were involved in the violence, a few dozen at most.
The incendiary text messages which circulated in the days before the uprising alluded to "Leb and Wog bashing day".

The Anti Racist narrative promoted by the media is a lie, all of it.
Mate I'm a participant in a centre left group called the UPF which criticises globalistaion, immigration and violent Anti Racist extremism, what the media reports about our rallies and what actually goes on are as night to day.
At the last rally we had 35 people,Fairfax and Newscorp reported 150, they reported ugly clashes with violent supporters of Premier Andrews, these were verbal taunts delivered over the heads of a double line of riot Police creating a buffer zone of about 40 metres, I couldn't even see the opposition.
Don't believe anything you read in the papers, they have no credibility.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 9:27:18 PM
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JOM wrote: "The Anti Racist narrative promoted by the media is a lie, all of it."

Related to this, here is my letter to the ABC on November 23. Didn't get a reply of course.

Subject: Use English

"You persistently present rival demonstrations as anti-Islam vs anti-racist. Islam is not a race, it's a religious ideology. Criticising it, opposing it, deriding it, impeding it is not racism. Those who perceive in Islam a threat to human rights and to the legal system on which human rights depend in Australia have rational, fact-based reasons to do so, backed by mountains of evidence from everyday observations to scholarly literature, whether ABC ideologues agree with them or not. To label their opponents as anti-racist is to imply, insultingly, that those opposing the spread of Islam are racist in doing so. It is time that ABC and similar news outlets came clean and explained just how opposing the Islamic ideology comes to be racist. Best of luck, you'll need it."
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 11:28:18 PM
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Julian,
Nicely put, the people opposing us using the rhetoric of "Anti Racism" are in the main just addled Trotskyites and Greens who actually support the war in the Middle East, the central cause of friction between Muslims and Australians.
The real reason they hate us so much is because we're treading on their toes and pulling their beards and exposing them as frauds and shameless apologists for the Neo Liberal, globalist capitalist agenda.
We're a group which is entirely working class and which has come up from street protesting and social media, as opposed to their fake Left coalition drawn from and financed by the bourgeois parties and the universities.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 17 December 2015 6:12:06 PM
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"Anti-Muslim protests sparked by a proposed mosque in Bendigo were organised by a far right group based in Sydney and Melbourne known as the United Patriots Front that sees this as the first battle in what it calls a war against the Islamicisation of Australia."

Come, come Jay; "I'm a participant in a centre left group called the UPF: centre left? What about Blair Cottrell Victorian leader of the UPF, is this the same Blair Cottrell who wanted a picture of Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler in every classroom in every school in Australia. Hummm, centre left you say.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 18 December 2015 7:33:59 AM
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//Mate I'm a participant in a centre left group called the UPF//

Would this be the same UPF that claims solidarity with Golden Dawn, or a different UPF? Because if it is the same one that claims solidarity with Holocaust-denying neo-Nazis, I think you might need a refresher course on political theory to remind you of the differences between 'centre-left' and 'far-right'.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 18 December 2015 7:56:42 AM
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