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Well said Tony Abbott

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'When are people going to allow this indigenous stuff to run it's course '

Rechtub

why let it run its course when mulitudes are sucking on the public purse by keeping it going. Anyone that has visited some of these small communities knows that the children have no hope of a future. As with the drowning boat people the lefts narrative far surpasses true compassion.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 14 March 2015 6:42:02 PM
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I think Phil Hunt's letter to the SMH deserves quoting in full:
Government policies towards Indigenous Australians are like a bad farmer who invests money in a crop, plants the field, watches some of the shoots come up, then ploughs it all in and starts again, muttering that some of it wasn't growing as well as expected. How many successful programs across the nation have been cut because someone has come up with yet another idea of how to "fix" things, but doesn't put the effort in adjusting it as needed and seeing it through? How long do Indigenous people have to put up with politicians' and bureaucrats' policy whims – or should we call them Lifestyle Improvement Options for Others?
Posted by Aidan, Sunday, 15 March 2015 12:13:03 AM
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The reason that aboriginals suffer from poor health and unemployment is that so many of them live far away from services and employment. It is not rational to spend 10x as much providing crap services to tiny remote outposts.

Bring the people to the jobs and services and then there will be some chance of closing the gap.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 15 March 2015 9:07:23 AM
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Aidan,

That is easily said, but it is frivolous and demonstrably wrong, just more muddying the waters (and for what purpose?).

Read the reports of the various reviews, paying attention to those from the government's own auditor (ANAO) over many years.

A question for you is how come some communities have been getting it right and blooming, but others are not? How come so many indigenous have completed tertiary study and are doing well, but others do not take advantage of the many opportunities that exist?

There are also those who do very well for themselves out of the dysfunctional system they themselves want to continue and for their own selfish reasons.

At the end of the day it is apparent that some live in a rut of their own making, prepared to live off excuses and welfare forever.

Perpetual victimhood anyone?
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 15 March 2015 3:14:27 PM
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Well said Tony Abbott,

You have had the guts to say what a vast majority of Australians
Have been saying and thinking for many years. If Aborginals choose to live in the way of their old culture, cut off from White culture, then they should not expect any help from the white mans medical skills, house building skills
Educational skills,etc. So please don’t complain to the United Nations about having poor health,outcomes and disadvantages to white man and then say in the next breath you reject the white mans culture.

What you are basically saying is these disadvantages are an inbuilt part of the culture (Aboriginal culture) that you say you are living. Your culture never had the medical outcomes and advantages of white society, so if you want to live in the old culture then you must be happy to accept the health and lower lifespan that your Aboriginal culture allows you.
You cant have it both ways, rejecting the white mans culture and way of doing things and at the
Same time wanting all the benefits of white culture.

Tony Abbott is right you are choosing that lifestyle.
And that lifestyle is Aboriginal culture.

It is the white mans way of living that provides all those advantages you complain about not having. A lot of races and cultures are too weak to make it in the white mans world because the fact is the white culture is built on a strong work ethic. Some of these people who run to join Isis are just weak dropouts who find white culture too hard for them.

White culture never became one of the most advanced cultures in the world by sitting around under outback trees complaining.
Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 15 March 2015 6:09:12 PM
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Yes Cheerful, sad but so true.

Tony Abbott is not saying they can't live where they choose, rather he is saying you can't choose to live in the middle of nowhere and continue receiving support for your lifestyle choices.

Now if the kids are going to suffer, then have them moved to an area where they do have a chance, because saying the kids will suffer just amplifies the poor choices their parents make in having and raising them in such remote areas. Poor parenting is the cause of most unruly mistfit children, nit the children themselves and, a huge part if responsible parenting is having and raising kids in areas where they can expect to lead a decent contributing life.

Hopefully this is the beginning of the end to this ongoing tax payer rort that's been going on for decades.

We as a society must adopt the attitude towards tax payer funded lifestyles as 'no splash, no cash' before there's nothing left for anyone, which simply means an end to the endless gravy train that so many indigenous folk have taken for granted for so long.

We are cracking down on whites who refuse to work, so we must extend this to anyone, regardless of race.

Earning or learning must not be race bias.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 16 March 2015 8:58:28 PM
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