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George W Bush, Emperor and Messenger of God

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Dear F.H....
I was drawing a comparison between GWB's approach to the world and Mohammeds. Thats the key to this disucssion.

The source I used is an Islamic one, and as far as I know is reliable. I gave you the link and you might have some question about it, so I ask you to scrutinize.

The writings of all those others, I cannot comment on, because I don't have access to their works, nor do I know what they wrote on the particular incident I am referring to for the purposes of this discussion.

Its not about 'hate' for goodness sake, its about me trying to delve into a particular incident as reported in a source and seeking to understand the mindset of Mohamed in that particular event.

If correctly reported, it also shows many aspects to the Muslim mindset of the day.
This is socially and historically important don't u agree ?

Please review my source and give your evaluation.
cheers, happy Ramadan
Posted by BOAZ_David, Friday, 22 September 2006 4:57:56 PM
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WHAT ;- Caliph JW Bush-Egad Omar Mohammad-Bush. Fairdinkum, Give me a break; some people have too much spare time on their hands.
You left out Howard and Blair. But wait a minute , how can that be , they are Crusaders; They can't be in on the Caliphate , can they ?
I can see pixies floating around me. Ooooo no.
Posted by All-, Saturday, 23 September 2006 2:08:04 PM
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F.H. you might like to check out this link mate... a significant Muslim from your own Islamic University.... (Egypt)

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=302730

His testimony is also linked on that site.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 23 September 2006 7:40:50 PM
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One day David you may understand the true meaning of hatred, it is all in the mind, you believe you are always right, maybe you are when it comes to having a memory filled with fiction, you are not capable of understanding Islam, you see Muslims as "them" because they dont belong to your invented God Club,
George Bush only has one thing on his mind , MONEY from oil, how many millions of dollars from oil and armaments, go into his fathers bank account every day, how many millions of dollars are spent every day to stop anyone getting too close to GB, he worships a antichrist disguised as God, he needs to understand God tells us we must not kill, and that he GB will have to ride a camel through the eye of a needle to get in to heaven, so how can he be a messenger from God,
Posted by athair_siochain, Saturday, 23 September 2006 8:10:03 PM
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Dear Athair....
I do understand about hate.. its origins etc.. from the heart..as Jesus said.

Please view this video from Indonesia, and look at our future here unless we maintain true vigilance at all times.

Just imagine if 'you' were one of the Christian ladies in this courtroom. Listen to the rantings of the Muslims outside.
Look at what these people are saying.

It appears that one of these ladies left Islam, and they want her killed.
I saw the 13 in Melbournes Country Court... I won't draw anything from that except that you may well benefit from a visit during their trial and 'see' them..... their faces...etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5HCmIKAWMk&NR

Here are Bosnian Muslims desecrating a Church
http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=&mode=related&v=aeC5zbA3F-U

Albanian Muslims burning and desecrating a Church
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8mlJpmda1I&mode=related&search=

Remember post Cronulla.. what happened to 3 churches ? Is this close enough to 'home' for you ?

Whatever else Bush may be, he is certainly fighting against this.
You can speak about resources, and its as true of Bush as it was for the Muslim Caliphs..for the Ottomans... for all. "All have sinned"
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 23 September 2006 9:50:27 PM
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Boaz David,

You are mixing tribalism, law and order with religious practice. A simple example I can give you by the reaction of the Christian Orthodox in Egypt to a reported paedophile priest in the Church: not only did the ‘faithful’ cover up for his crimes for years, they rioted in the streets when he was arrested by the police.

In an attempt to bring some reason and rationale into the thread, let me throw a little challenge at you:

- On reason: Islam is younger than Christianity by 570 years, yet the Islamic enlightenment superseded the Christian one by 3 centuries. Muslims invented the cheque, the first concept of hospital and their research and findings in math, algebra, anatomy and optics were the corner stone for European enlightenment. Probably this is why Catholic writers at the time referred to them as evil (evil = associated with science, God forbid!)

- Credibility: Islam in essence has one source: the Quran. Quoting a story or a hadith that conflicts with the Quran discredits the story and the source. Simple really. The prophet couldn’t have opposed the Quran. In Islam the Quran is taught to everyone and not educated to the elite to communicate with God.

- Theology: Islam and Christianity in essence is one of the same. Reading the Bible (van Dyek’s bible), it is as clear as daylight that Jesus talked about himself as a prophet. His family and followers regarded him as such. How did you get from the bible (and the Quran) to today’r tri-headed Theology by using reason?

Do you have what it takes to discuss without mud-throwing?
Posted by Fellow_Human, Monday, 25 September 2006 12:38:41 PM
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