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RESIDENTS across Harrow have vented their anger about proposals to have Halal-only menus in primary schools in the borough. Meat is meat. What does it matter how its killed? These stupid parents should find other things to whine about. Halal meat is more hygienically processed anyway.The newspaper revealed exclusively how Harrow Council has employed a catering company to only prepare Halal meat to serve youngsters in Harrow. This is nothing new to my knowledge, Tower Hamlets council been doing Halal meat in schools for at least 3 years or more.

The Muslim community has been passing through a phase of fourth Crusades. The battleground is the field of education, where the young generation will be educated properly with the Holly Quran in one hand and Sciences in other hand to serve humanity. A true Muslim is a citizen of the world, which has become a small global village. We are going to prepare our youth to achieve that objective in the long run. A true Muslim believes in Prophet Moses and the Prophet Jesus and without them one cannot be a Muslim. My suggestion is that in all state, independent and Christian based school special attention should be given to the teaching of Comparative Religion and Islam should be taught by qualified Muslim Teachers to make the children aware the closeness of Islam to Christianity and Judaism which will help them to think about Islam, as A Pragmatic and Modern Way of Life, during their life time. Those state schools where Muslim children are in majority may be opted out as Muslim Academies.

There are couples of state schools in Harrow where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies so that non-Muslim children could enjoy their own meals in their own schools.
Iftikhar Ahmad
Posted by Iftikhar, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 8:18:30 AM
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Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 9:05:10 AM
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Pretty sure there's no real meat in school dinners anyway.

>>The Muslim community has been passing through a phase of fourth Crusades.<<

The Crusades ended hundreds of years ago. Stop being a dick.

>>There are couples of state schools in Harrow where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies so that non-Muslim children could enjoy their own meals in their own schools.<<

Because segregation has worked so well before. Stop being a dick.

Cheers,

Tony
Posted by Tony Lavis, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 9:13:03 AM
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Dear Iftikhar,

Let me get this straight. You're saying that Halal-meat
should be served in school lunches in state schools?
And that these schools should be made into "Muslim
Academies," because the majority of students are
Muslims? You refer to the UK - where non-Muslim
parents are objecting to this happening and you're
blaming both these non-Muslims and the local council
for "whinging" and somehow being unreasonable?

I'm afraid that to me that simply is not logical.
I still don't understand what's happening in the UK
has to do with Australia.

Muslims, like any other religious group - have the right
to send their children to their own religous schools.
Where their special needs will be catered for. Our
society allows religious groups this choice. It is up to
the parents to make the choice on behalf of their children
as to where their children will be educated. Public
schools have to cater not to specific needs of specific
religious groups but to all groups.

Halal-meat is very expensive - and also may play a part in
why the local council is not subscribing to providing
this meat for school lunches. Public schools don't have
the finances to cater to specialised groups.

I have the feeling that you Sir, are simply stirring.
You do have choices in our society - and complaining
because you want everyting your own way - without
seeing the bigger picture is childish - and it won't change
anything
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 10:59:04 AM
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Have to agree with everything Lexi said
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:14:13 AM
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OP, "Halal meat is more hygienically processed anyway"

Factoids are the usual ploy of the activist. The hope is that no-one checks and the lie becomes truth. Australian meatworks are inspected and have to meet stringent sanitation conditions. Although there is halal slaughter in some works, ritual slaughter is just as likely performed outside of regulated works. The reasons for this are obvious.

I abhor ritual slaughter. It should be firmly discouraged. Even where pre-stunning is used it is not the same as the stunning used for other slaughter.

Years ago the mainstream religious schools in Australia, usually Roman Catholic, lost their emphasis on teaching their creed as a way of life. In Catholic schools for example priests and nuns are not often seen and the teachers are laypersons. It is that circumstance that is the implied and real pre-condition for community support of government subsidised education via the 'religious' schools.

Some Muslims want to turn back the clock to a Forties Australia where religious fundies blackmailed government into strict censorship and tight control over citizens' behaviour. Fat chance, we will see them in hell first.

What I also object to is foreign interests attempting to influence Australian politics.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:47:09 AM
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