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Australian city's violence - why and who is to blame?

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Dear Philip,

I agree with scribbler. Perpetrators of violent crimes
come in all colours and ethnic backgrounds. Singling
out their skin colour should not be the issue here.
We need to broaden this discussion and look at the causes
of why these crimes occur and how to prevent them.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 9 December 2012 12:49:08 PM
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Lexi - Quote "Singling
out their skin colour should not be the issue here." In the context of a description issued by police the origin of the perpetrator if available is vital in an early arrest in some circumstances rather than a vague "dark skin tone".

The assailant was (description example only)
male - dark skin tone - 165cm tall approx - 65kg approx - short black hair - unshaven.

male of African appearance - 165cm tall approx - 65kg approx - short black hair - unshaven.

Which description do you think will allow the person to be caught quickest, the quicker you catch someone the safer is for other potential victims.
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 9 December 2012 1:36:18 PM
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Philip S,

I'm wondering what the term "African appearance" would denote?

Would that be North Afican, Central African, Southern African, Eastern African, etc etc...as you realise, oodles of people in the world have a dark skin tone, although you average Moroccan or Egyptian has a different tone of skin to those Africans who hail from other geographical locations on that continent.

I surmise that "Black as the ace of spades" is the description you were after.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 9 December 2012 1:49:37 PM
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Welcome back Lexi, we've missed you. How have you been?

Of course I'm glad to see you, but as usual, disagree with you on these matters, but so what, we still love you.

No amount of beating around the bush can disguise the fact we have let in, mostly as refugees, a host of people from very violent cultures. These people were only oppressed because they were the minority. Give them a majority & they instantly become the oppressors.

They stayed in line at home because retribution was swift & hard. Give them our slap on the wrist punishment & they become demons.

We need instant deportation of any immigrant who brakes any law.

No welfare benefits for anyone, until they have 5 years of tax paying employment.

No legal aid for anyone until they have had 5 years of tax paying employment.

No immigrants, of any description, from countries who's previous immigrants have displayed a high level of criminality.

No special treatment of immigrants from New Zealand, unless they have 5 years of tax paying employment in NZ.

With these & only with such laws, we may be able to reclaim our night streets.

This mealy mouth garbage about criminals from all races is just that. It is well known which races have the highest levels of crime, & not admitting this fact will lead to blood in our streets.

Wake up people, before it's too late.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 9 December 2012 2:22:20 PM
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Here is the beginning of a story from August 20th 2012.

"Police have expressed concern over new figures that show Somali and Sudanese-born Victorians are five times more likely to commit crime than the wider community."

These ones were born in Australia but still have failed to assimilate.

There are good and bad people in every country.
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 9 December 2012 3:18:18 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

Thank You for your kind words.

However, I still feel that sweeping statements about
any particular group is arguing on an emotional level
rather than a mature intelligent one - because as
we know there always are individual differences within
each group and you have only to listen to the news
to realise that violence and crime does come in all
colours. And as Philip pointed out - there are good and
bad people in every society. Ours is not exempt.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 9 December 2012 4:38:26 PM
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