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The Creeping Hand of Tyranny.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=l3t4wgZCO5M#! Before the US Senate is a new bill, National Defence Authorisation Act." Congress affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropiate force pursant to the authotisation for use pursant to the authorisation for the use of the Military Force,includes the authority for Armed Forces pending disposition under the rule of War."

The battle field according to Senator Graham is the world,thus their domain and anyone who is deemed a threat to the USA can be arrested without charge and held without legal consultation or trial.John McCain also backs this act.Obama's "Preventative Dentention Order" did not include American citizens as such, but targeted terrorists.Obama proposed that the Preventative Dentention order be replaced by this new Act but that was defeated in the Senate.Obama has also legalised the assassination of suspected terrorists.

So Under this Act anyone in the World where extradition agreements exist, can now be deemed a threat by the US Military and imprisoned without legal recourse or trial.We are relying on the US Military to make sound judgememts.Did they do so when torturing Iraqis?

None of this is in the papers nor do authors on OLO confront these alarming loss of liberties.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 4 December 2011 9:05:48 AM
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Arjay,

Frankly, this stuff has been going on for a while. Preemptive - preventative, you name it - its more likely to be the hand grasping desperately to hold on to its former hegemony...the initial convulsions of a dying superpower.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 5 December 2011 9:57:44 AM
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its funny how if we ridicule others
in the klead up to attack...we all fall for
the babies basshed to death..[thrown from incubaters stories]

or islambe nin liner flew the jets into the towers
how we are the good guys ..so we can water board when bored

our 'side is alone is perfect''

i was watching some film yesterday
where arabs were watching some nake chicks belly dance
this somehow reflects off the veil aspect..and covering ya woman
[not drinking and not smoking dope but flavoured tobacco..
but hooka' are outlawed and linked to druggies in movies ]

its all so racist
that we been conditioned via popular cluture mediums
to condone war...ie murder..before premptivly we went direct to assasination of those whos court case would un wind the parts security adgencies had..in setting the issue in train

bin liner was cia
sadman insane was cia
polpot well who knows
but that egyptian...mossad
anyone oppressing the arabs
isnt there toserve their people

heck look at the javanese running indonesia
armies running burma/egypt..china[usa]

are armed forces required to swear oath to the crown or hrh
[its not the same thing][i swore oath to hrh..lol a brit figure head]
who never signed a lol...new law into 'life'..ever..

heck peter beaty signed the new laws himself..lol
and silence
Posted by one under god, Monday, 5 December 2011 10:13:45 AM
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>>None of this is in the papers>>

Christian Science Monitor:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2011/1203/Guantanamo-for-US-citizens-Senate-bill-raises-questions

Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/defense-bill-gives-military-too-much-responsibility-for-detainees/2011/11/28/gIQAbbAO6N_story.html

New York Times:

http://loyalopposition.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/30/president-obama-veto-the-defense-authorization-act/

And many more:

Hardly a media blackout.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Monday, 5 December 2011 10:55:47 AM
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Sounds like they are bringing the law up to common practice. The way law works these days i am not surprised, in holding could be suspects.
Parot I do not think you will see the USA downgraded from super power. The USA can go on with out the rest of the world, on their inbuilt economy. It's only borrowing that has caused a problem.
Posted by 579, Monday, 5 December 2011 11:04:14 AM
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Of the fascist regimes of Hitler , Mussolini, Franco , Suharto and several Latin American regimes, all shared the same 14 characteristics:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Rampant Sexism
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
9. Corporate Power is Protected
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
11. Disdain for Intellectuals
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections

Now, do we just tick another point off or our journey toward the inevitable or decide that circumstances change and we must adapt?

Remember that we don't have our rights taken away - we surrender them willingly.

(PS. Under One God - the babies thrown out of incubators story during the Kuwait war was later proven to be a deliberate lie.)
Posted by wobbles, Monday, 5 December 2011 12:49:51 PM
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