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Drunken louts on our streets, could this help.

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These days many of our streets are having to cope with drunken louts, in the early hours due to the closure of venues at the 3-5am mark.

The venue simply closes them out and says, 'they are someone else's problem now'.

This results in wasted resources (police and ambos) and it also causes grave concerns for many innocent folk simply going about their daily lives.

You know there is a problem when the big 'M' has security guards at 5am to keep these fools at bay.

So, what about if there were a safe level of intoxication set, say .15 while in a public place. That's three times the legal level to drive. It could be higher, who knows.

Now, once these people have had their fill, the venue must test them to make sure they are under the limit and, if they are over, the venue must quarantine them until such time as they are ready to leave, at great expense to the venue.

After all, it is the venue that allowed them to get to this state, so it is hardly fair that they simply cast them out and say,'it's someone else's problem now', which is what currently happens.

If nothing else, this would force the venues to adopt a safer alcohol management plan. Which, by the way they are supposed to do.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 12 February 2011 6:36:37 AM
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Ok Rechtub, let's hear from the defenders brigade. I'm looking forward to the academic social engineering outfit to put forward some solutions.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 12 February 2011 8:37:15 AM
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The issue of drunken and noisy youth usually brings the response of "change the licensing laws", this is not a solution, as full or partial prohibition punishes the majority for the deeds of the minority.

The solution is to beef up the Police presence in the area, not close the licensed venues early. This week on talk back radio the issue was one of new police stations that the NSW government has been pressured to open. Locals rang in to say that they had received a new "shop front" police station, that when manned was locked to the public and you needed to knock on the locked door to get their attention, what a joke, as is policing in NSW..
Posted by sonofgloin, Saturday, 12 February 2011 9:56:23 AM
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You are asking for a perfect world.
Police man on every corner, maybe closing down night life.
A return to the 1950,s pubs closing at 6pm?
The answer may in fact be removing the laws introduced over years, a lot by my party.
Laws that said it is ok to be drunk in the street ok to miss behave, seemingly to support the night life that is the heart of out city's.
And for most of us a break from the working day, the few are your target rechtub let them pay for their nonsense not us all.
And give the police a break that other comment they on most nights are flat out in domestic disputes .
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 12 February 2011 2:18:38 PM
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there is a solution
licence drinkers..[all of em]
no licence..no legal licence...enabling your abitity to drink..[legally]

they buy the licence...at the pub..[with the first drink]
licence is cheaper at beginning of night...yearly drinking licence [no discount]

if on the record for bad drinbking habits..at a police station
or via a judge..[who sets the basic punative limits for trouble makers]

how it works..is you swipe your card ..into the pub computer
each time you want a drink...[it gets recorded onto the cards chip..and into the computer]

bassicly if you behave responsably..your limit gets increased
irrespobnsably it decreases..but any one can have two standard drinks
per night

or min of one shot spirits..per hour

i thought it could become a phone app
[this is my claim ..to any proffits made from that one]

there is need for photo id..[updated each time you drink]
100 points..or fingerprint..or eyescan

the more you use ..your drinkers licence
the less valid ..becomes your driving licence

lying/decieving..earns a day and a night in the lockup
and likely a court appearance ..and a fine

all revenue raised
goes to rehabiltation of problem drinkers

there is also a set increase in price
each drink costs progressivly more..but offsets a taxi home
points /credit accumulates..can be reddemed via the bottle shop [next day]

yeah i know i been thinking too much on this
but drink irresponsably..ya loose your licence

try to cheat the sytem..go to jail
directly to jail
do not pass go

patent right held by
johan nine
johan hendrick
one under god..de jure
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 12 February 2011 3:02:45 PM
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RECTUB

"If you put sugar in your petrol tank.. you are going to destroy your engine"

Need I say more ?
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Saturday, 12 February 2011 8:20:53 PM
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