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Carbon Tax...again

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The Carbon tax is back on the agenda, the one that takes money from the consumer and gives it to the polluter.

Let’s have a look at New Zealand’s current Carbon experience. They emit bugger all like ourselves but have undertaken this ideological farce. Their tax will have no impact on the world environment.

There was an immediate rise in electricity, fuel, food, consumables; the bloody lot went up immediately. Right now Farmers Associations, Business Associations, Pensioner Associations, Welfare Associations and Consumer Associations are lobbying for the dismantling of the ideological tax.

In a year or so the New Zealand government will hand over one and a half billion dollars to the Multi National corporations who have purchased forests previous owned by the New Zealand people. They paid millions for the forests and will reap billions from the Kiwis and it then goes offshore to be invested in Carbon generating activities. Stupid stupid New Zealand. Stupid stupid Australia.
Posted by sonofgloin, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 9:27:16 AM
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sonofgloin, the AGW phenomena is not required to make any sort of sense, economic or otherwise. Some in our communities have been made the victims of fear, uncertainty and doubt. This has made them feel guilty and that guilt must be mitigated.

It used to be walking down the village street wearing sack cloth and ashes; some went for self flagellation and many other forms of “penance”.

Today we must venerate the symbolic cross of the windmill and to publicly declare “tax me, tax me”.

Unfortunately the rest of us will have to bear the financial burden for their “march of folly.”

It baffles me that having just spent three months on a study tour in Europe, where austerity is causing serious questions to be asked of all Governments on the real cost effectiveness of all their carbon initiatives, we are merrily heading into that which they are trying to extract themselves.

Climate Fools Day anyone?
Posted by spindoc, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:15:51 PM
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It is all irrelevant for as Prof Kjell Aklett of Uppsala Uni Energy
study group has shown, there will not be enough fossil fuel available
to match the projections of the IPCC.

So that is it, a total waste of time.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 10:43:57 AM
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I went searching for the Prof Aklett article so as to give the
reference but was unable to find it.
I did however find a Sydney Morning Herald item on the article.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/emissions-scenarios-are-based-on-flawed-assumptions-says-energy-expert-20101126-18asw.html

or for a more sensible url

http://tinyurl.com/39djzab
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:02:29 PM
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SOG....I've not seen the issue 'put' quite so down to earthish as that for some time. *Well done*!

You have it in a nutshell.

*IDEOLOGICAL TAX*...yep..you nailed it.

Using the Corbettreport as further ammo... the whole environment movement has been hijacked by *money* ? hmmm I think rather that "Money and Ideology" have conspired to press us into a socialist world mould.

The Environmental movement is primarily socialist and not about responsible stewardship of the planet.

Remember where it started ? It came from the 60s..and that emergence can in fact be linked to the ideas of the Frankfurt school socialists like Marcuse who spelt it out quite clearly in his essay on Repressive Tolerance.

CARBON TAX=> ? AAAH..that's the question...where does it go and for what?

Having a mild interest in the Solar Industry, I don't mind if such a tax is used to subsidize solar panels :) IN AUSTRALIA...but nowhere else. That's the kind of 'wealth redistribution' I can relate to.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Thursday, 2 December 2010 5:13:41 AM
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