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Gillard's word is worth absolutely nothing.

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Ms Gillard said before the election: "There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead."

Having given industry certainty on the carbon price, she now threatens various projects while she has a talkfest with the greens. The coalition is invited as long as they accept the outcome.

Julia Gillard is now in no position to criticise Tony Abbott on the pairing deal.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 5:54:40 AM
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Was this topic necessary?
Was any new information or idea introduced?
There is nothing interesting or unusual about this information - everything is just as expected, knowing that this continent of ours is run by a common thug.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 6:46:50 AM
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Yes Shadow Minister, we canít believe a word she says.

OK, so she is presumably trying to move the climate change issue forward, and has to deal with the Greens as part of a minority government and the forthcoming holders of the balance of power in the Senate.

You could argue that this is a pretty good reason for backflipping and considering the possibility of a carbon tax in one form or another. As bad as it looks for her credibility, I can see why it has to happen, in these highly unusual circumstances.

There is a MUCH worse thing happening here, for which she and the Greens should be condemned:

They are all worked up about climate change, but seem to hardly be concerned at all about peak oil or rising fuel prices. Weaning ourselves off of our total addiction to oil is MUCH more important and would galvanise the whole community into action MUCH more effectively than the climate change issue, if only our government would embrace it and promote the issue appropriately, instead of effectively blind-eyeing it!

There is only really a small section of our community that holds a passionate view that climate change is real and dangerous and that we must do everything in our power to prevent it. But just about everyone should be, and would be with the right sort of publicity, very highly concerned about what could happen to our whole society if the oil supply was to become even slightly smaller than demand or if the price was to start rising significantly.

With the same old approach to climate change, we could only ever hope to win a tiny and basically meaningless reduction in GHG emissions in Australia. But with the motivation to directly address our oil addiction, we could do major things very quickly. And if we did this, we would be addressing GHG emissions MUCH more effectively.

Again, Gillard and the Greens, and the Opposition, have all very badly let us down by not addressing our oil addiction directly and very prominently.
Posted by Ludwig, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 6:49:54 AM
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Ah yes that greatest scam of all time the Fabians hope to pay all of their incompetence off with by taxing you to your death.

Meanwhile on the other side of the planet the filthy rich discuss global cooling, a much more sinister problem facing us in the near short term.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100055500/global-cooling-and-the-new-world-order/

And could oil prices be heading for a crash?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzef43gdupk&feature
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wrrzsrb-wg&feature=related

Yes that trailer park trash should take us to an election on this issue so we can properly rid the country of her filth along with the reds err I mean the greens.

Hold on to your hats people; we're in for a wild ride!
Posted by RawMustard, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 8:04:01 AM
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Well yes a politician's word is to be taken with a grain of salt - which is why we need more direct participation.

The PM has not actually introduced a Carbon Tax she is discussing options via the CC Committee and should a tax be the option, it won't be introduced until after the term of this government (according to Gillard).

I hope it does not become another core and non-core promise arrangement. We are mightily fed up with the smoke and mirrors style of governance.
Posted by pelican, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 8:16:25 AM
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Isn't it wonderful folks, another constructive
thread by Shadow Minister on the malfunctions
of the Labor Party! If nothing else you've got
to admire Shadow Minister's persistance. He's
really a fortunate person in that he gets to have
a say on this Forum, even though he mightn't
deserve to be heard. It's a nice indulgence and
here he is taking advantage of it.

He tells us that our PM's word is worth (in his
opinion) absolutely nothing because she's going
to introduce a "carbon tax." Well as Pelly points
out all that's happening at present is that there's
a committee to discuss the pros and cons and of course
all the MPs been invited to participate. But that's not
something that sits well with the Shadow Minister
apparently. And like the rest of his/her colleagues in
the party that he/she supports, a "carbon tax," means a
tax on everything.

As for keeping one's word? Let's have a thread on the
law of "obfuscation or "that wasn't what I said."
The Opposition's statements, are always worded so that
the opposite meaning can be extracted from them.
And their leader has recently reneged on an agreement
that he'd signed - as Rob Oakeshott told us on "Q and A,"
last night. But that was of course when it was an important
measure necessary to win the election. Now that's it been
lost, it's no longer necessary to keep your word, so it
would seem.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 9:20:40 AM
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