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For Australia to NOT have the death penalty as an option is absurd.

The death penalty has nothing to do with crime deterrent or revenge but is
simply the absolute insurance that we the community are protected from any
possible repeat crimes by the person concerned.
The persons who have committed the worst crimes & have demonstrated total, premeditated disregard for fellow human beings,have without question, lost their rights.
Housing & feeding these worst offenders for life is simply not justice.
The death penalty must be reinstated throughout Australia.
Posted by waswassa, Thursday, 26 August 2010 1:07:54 PM
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Oh YEAH, and let's send the families the bill for the bullets and harvest the organs of the executed......not.

If one innocent gets executed I vote we get to execute a member of your family to balance the Chi.
Posted by StG, Thursday, 26 August 2010 3:23:03 PM
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<<The persons who have committed the worst crimes & have demonstrated total, premeditated disregard for fellow human beings,have without question, lost their rights.>>

Sorry I am questioning that. Even by your standards they still would have rights. Unless you would condone torturing them to death perhaps. Starve them for a while first. Deny them their right to legal representation?

"the absolute insurance that we the community are protected from any
possible repeat crimes by the person concerned."

A most ridiculous argument. What crimes? They havent been committed yet. I fear for a world that would hang someone for what they might do at some point in the future. No one would be safe. The whole concept is ludicrous and shows how little you have thought out your argument.

Not to mention the number of innocents who have been murdered by the state in the past. We hardly trust them to govern us let alone hold our lives in their hands. Bugger that.
The arguments against the death penalty are many and were all sorted out many years ago. Go do some research on why we got rid of it.

The main overiding reason to reject the death penalty is that it is barbaric and inhuman and we are (supposedly) civilised and reasoned people not barbarians who solve our problems with killing and violence.
Or are we?
Posted by mikk, Thursday, 26 August 2010 3:23:45 PM
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That logical path will lead you into all sorts of places you might not want to go, waswassa.

>>The death penalty has nothing to do with crime deterrent or revenge but is simply the absolute insurance that we the community are protected from any possible repeat crimes by the person concerned.<<

Similarly, the cutting off of hands is absolute insurance that we the community are protected from any possible repeat crimes by the person concerned.

Also, if we are prepared to allow the state to kill people on our behalf, why would we not allow ourselves the same privilege? Find the murderer, hunt him/her down, and put a bullet through their head.

What's the difference?

I guess murder is easier to justify to yourself, if someone else is doing it for you.
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 26 August 2010 3:28:45 PM
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The death penalty has certainly made Singapore a safer place for men, women and children. Only those in denial would try and argue that it has not saved lives. Humanism always leads to misplaced compassion where more innocents get hurt and killed.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 26 August 2010 4:32:56 PM
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But Australia does at least have the death penalty by proxy: You tell the police that you believe that one of your kids is going to be a drug mule. The police tell you that all will be well and that your child will not be allowed to leave the country. The police then make no effort to stop the would be drug mule and instead put your kid under surveillance and tip off the law enforcement authorities in the country for which your child is headed. As there is no agreement as to where the arrest will take place, the police in Australia have effectively taken a course of action which could subject an Australian citizen to the death penalty. All legal apparently.

So, in a country in which the death penalty is prohibited, it is possible for a public authority to subject a citizen to the death penalty in another country. That stinks enough, but it is actually worse than that, because for a piece of filth who commits a vile crime here and gets a total joke of a sentence in an Australian court, the authorities will not provide evidence to another country if such evidence could result in a death sentence for that person.

Talk about twisted morality.
Posted by Fester, Thursday, 26 August 2010 5:49:15 PM
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