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Humanitarian crisis

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Here are ten population groups listed in ALPHABETICAL order:

(1) African-Americans

(2) Australian Aborigines

(3) Australians (Average for whole country)

(4) Egyptians

(5) Gazans

(6) Iranians

(7) Jordanians

(8) Saudi Arabians

(9) Turks

(10) US (whole country)

Each bracket below shows the data for one of the ten groups. The first number in the bracket shows male life expectancy, the second number female life expectancy and the third number infant mortality in deaths per thousand live births.

I've randomised the order of the brackets so that they are NOT in the same order as the list of population groups above.

Can you spot the humanitarian crisis?

Match the brackets with the list of population groups to spot the humanitarian crisis.


(79.3, 84.3, 4.7) (This group has male life expectancy of 79.3 years, female life expectancy of 84.3 years and infant mortality of 4.7 per thousand births)

(70.0, 76.9, 13.6)

(78.6, 81.3, 17.0)

(72.1, 75.4, 17.7)

(59.4, 64.8, 17.0)

(75.8, 80.8, 6.1)

(69.8, 75.1, 25.0)

(70.4, 74.2, 24.8)

(69.9, 73.0, 34.4)

(74.4, 78.7, 11.2)
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 12:22:24 PM
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*ouch* :) steven....too much brain use so early... I'll just *wave* to you.."hi"
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 6:01:45 AM
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OK, here is the key:

Each series of bracketed numbers below provides selected data for each of the ten groups listed below. The first number shows male life expectancy, the second number female life expectancy and the third number infant mortality in deaths per thousand live births.

African American (70.0, 76.9, 13.6)
Australia (79.3, 84.3, 4.7)
Australian Aborigine (59.4,64.8, 17.0)
Egyptians (69.8, 75.1, 25.0)
Gazans (72.1, 75.4, 17.7)
Iranians (69.9, 73.0, 34.4)
Jordanians (78.6, 81.3, 17.0)
Saudis (74.4, 78.7, 11.2)
Turks (70.4, 74.2, 24.8)
US (75.8, 80.8, 6.1 )

A few comments:

There is a genuine humanitarian crisis among Australian Aborigines. On average their lifespan is 12 years less than those of Gazans and a full two DECADES less than the Australian average.

Gazans have an average lifespan that is similar to African Americans but a slightly higher infant mortality rate.

Despite spending one dollar in six on healthcare, life expectancy in the US is about the same as in Jordan! However infant mortality is lower.

Iran's oil wealth does not show up in these statistics. They have a shorter average lifespan than Gazans and DOUBLE the infant mortality rate. Perhaps a little less spending on weapons for Hizbullah and Hamas and a little more on healthcare is indicated.

Life expectancy in Gaza is similar to that in Turkey but with a much lower infant mortality rate. Perhaps the Turkish "humanitarians" who were aboard the flotilla bringing supplies to Gaza would now consider working to save the lives of Turkish babies.

Gaza used to be part of Egypt. Interestingly the numbers for Gaza are marginally better than those for Egypt.

On the whole Gazans experience a life expectancy and infant mortality rate that is similar to or slightly better than the countries whose "humanitarians" are attempting to "help" them.

The life expectancy and infant mortality rates of AUSTRALIAN ABORIGINES is the REAL shocker.

The numbers for African Americans don't look too good either
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 8:30:19 AM
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This approach to statistics displays racial prejudices of analysts for presentation to direct reader interpretations towards racist conclusions.

Next step, directing readers towards accepting racist solutions.

Differences between these groups relate to their environments, particularly their poverty, far more than their racial identifications.

Poverty a greater influence on acquired life skills than ethnicity.

Poverty provides lives of struggle to survive day to day.

Wealth provides lives of choice, better choices available and often adopted.

Racial identification tag (IMHO wrongfully) attached to people who after long time living within particular environments, appear consequently aquire some biological adaptations for better survival within their phsyical environments.

Human adaptation, our changes of behavior to survive particular environments, includes also our cultural changes - our learning.

Primary determinant of life expectancy both in and between cultural groups is personal lifestyle within environment - both social environment and physical environment.

Debate interesting, particularly with recently presented ideas on SBS TWO (exBBC) concerning inherited cultural attitudes.

The Ghost in Your Genes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/ghostgenes.shtml

- - - start cut and paste- - -

The scientists who believe your genes are shaped in part by your
ancestors' life experiences.

Biology stands on the brink of a shift in the understanding of
inheritance. The discovery of epigenetics hidden influences upon the
genes could affect every aspect of our lives.

At the heart of this new field is a simple but contentious idea that
genes have a 'memory'. That the lives of your grandparents the air
they breathed, the food they ate, even the things they saw can
directly affect you, decades later, despite your never experiencing
these things yourself. And that what you do in your lifetime could in
turn affect your grandchildren.

- - - end cut and paste- - -

Do go read the rest !

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Posted by polpak, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:10:43 AM
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polpak,

Any racism in this post exists entirely in your mind.

I saw The Ghost in your Genes when it was broadcast on ABC. It is well worth watching.

But that does not detract from the existence of a shocking humanitarian crisis as indicated by the fact that Aborigines die on average two decades before other Australians and 12 years younger than Gazans. They also suffer from an infant mortality rate almost three times higher than the rest of Ausralia.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:24:06 AM
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Hmmm. How can this be explained in truth without Political Correctness getting in the way of the truth.

African American (70.0, 76.9, 13.6) Crack heads, Murder
Australia (79.3, 84.3, 4.7) Great lifestyle
Australian Aborigine (59.4,64.8, 17.0) Booze, petrol, Living in filth
Egyptians (69.8, 75.1, 25.0) Road accidents, L.i.f
Gazans (72.1, 75.4, 17.7) Terrorists, Suicide bombers, Rocket firers
Iranians (69.9, 73.0, 34.4) Sharia Hangings, Government sanctioned murders, Terriosts, Suicide bombers, L.i.f
Jordanians (78.6, 81.3, 17.0) Staying nutral, grumbling a lot
Saudis (74.4, 78.7, 11.2) Terrorists, L.i.f.
Turks (70.4, 74.2, 24.8) Terrorists, Suicide bombers, L.i.f
US (75.8, 80.8, 6.1 ) Mass Shootings, Murder, War

Does that answer the question?
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 1:51:35 PM
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