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Mohammed, Muhammad, Mohammad, Muhammed

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DreamOn>> Gimli was a Son of Gloin, and I remember him in the Mines of Moria on top of the tomb of Balin.<<

DreanOn, regarding your observation on the son of Gloin. I would have to describe my relationship to Gimli with the perpendicular pronoun..............."It is I".
Posted by sonofgloin, Saturday, 29 May 2010 6:31:32 PM
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Two Fascisms collide

English Fascists:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/28/english-defence-league-guardian-investigation

And Muslim Fascists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kyNIevsIs
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 30 May 2010 2:19:22 AM
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Dear Steven :) this is hilarious.

Haven't you seen the STRONG pro Israel theme in the EDL ?

1 in 20 flags at marches and rallies is ISRAELI you duffer.

"Far Right" ? :) that is the biggest joke of the century.

If 'far right' means strong support for Israel ...hmmm I better revise my understanding of 'far right'.

I've actually had sneaking suspicion that the EDL is in fact funded by the Israeli's or by Jewish interests.. which would not bother me in the slighest.

SonofGloin (I wish that didn't sound so much like groin *Grimace*

I need to take you aside and give you a mild dose of soft re-education :)

You said:

"Whereas the Koran interprets it as "you shall not murder unjustly"

Would you care to do some research and please fleshout the Muslim/Islamic understanding of 'Justly' in regard to that ?
You might find some help from this site.
http://www.allaahuakbar.net/shirk/crime.htm
The first paragraph will suffice.

DREAMY.. interesting question mate. What WOULD have happened if the commies had won?

Perhaps the 'opposite' to THIS:)

http://www.sa.org.au/mag-archive-from-old-website/108-edition-66/912-the-roots-of-islamic-fundamentalism

QUOTE:
However, through an alliance with bourgeois politicians, the mullahs began a campaign against the shuras. They formed the Hizbollah, an organisation designed to physically attack left and women activists. Gangs of Hizbollah were sent into the universities to beat and kill left-wing students.

Having failed to seize the leadership of the Iranian revolution, the left-wing parties were now smashed by the Islamic clergy and capitalist politicians who did. Pathetically, the Tudeh Party continued to support the Islamic leaders - even as those same leaders began to have them rounded up and executed.
UNQUOTE.

Now..can you tell me one thing...(I'm genuinely curious about this)
Why would a socialist support any Islamic movement today? :)

Remember this is FROM a Socialist web site.

Notice the telling use of the word "failed to SIEZE" 2nd para
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Sunday, 30 May 2010 9:51:41 AM
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With friends like the English Defence League Israel may not need enemies.

I suspect that some EDL members may be carrying Israeli flags for the same reason some American racists in the North sport the confederate flag. They know it angers the other side. It's often a case of my enemy's enemy...

My guess is that grassroots members of both Fascisms hate Jews about equally.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 30 May 2010 9:59:21 AM
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Dear Steven...that is not a guess :) it is prejudice.

If you want to know about the EDL you should research them.

http://englishdefenceleague.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=124&Itemid=130

http://lionheartuk.blogspot.com/2009/07/edl-calling.html

That particular chap lived in Israel for some time.. might even still be there since the Muslims in Luton tried to kill him and the British police arrested him.

http://lionheartuk.blogspot.com/2008/09/great-siege.html
This vid is excellent in filling in the information gaps.

You could also benefit from looking at exactly 'when' and in what circumstances the EDl began. March 2009

It began when radical Muslims denigrated and shouted abuse at British soldiers in Luton
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/4991313/Lutons-Muslim-extremists-defy-public-anger.html

It is an expression of English outrage that the Police protected the PERPetrators rather than the victims of their illegal abuse.

NEVER EVER believe the portrayals in the mainstream English media..(Left OR Right) they are hacking into the EDL for very specific political reasons.. you need eyes and ears and witnesses on the ground at 'ground zero' to know the full story.

MEDIA APPROACH

1/ FACTS.
a) "EDL hold a march in such and such a place. (peaceful)
b) UAF thugs hold a counter demo and hurl bricks at police and riot.

2/ MEDIA POTRAYAL
*Violence broke out at the EDL demo at Dudley*

They neglect to report that out of the 70 arrests, some 60+ were of the UAF for violence. The rest, which might have included some EDL were more than likely self defense acts.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Sunday, 30 May 2010 5:38:36 PM
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"If Islam's image means more to you than the suffering of those thousands of innocent people murdered and maimed explicitly in the name of Allah each year, then it means that you are definitely a Muslim (or at least a Foxy or CJ Morgan clone) and this page is for you.

As a Muslim, you know that life is full of tough choices. Do you behead or not behead? Have adult relations with your buddy's 9-year-old child...? Take a female sex slave... ?

For followers of the Religion of Peace, it all comes down to knowing what Muhammad did when faced with the same decisions (based on reliable Muslim sources, of course). In fact, the more you know about the founder of Islam the better, even if you aren't Muslim.

Forget all those shifty apologists, trying to make Muhammad out to be some sort of "Jesus clone" based on a few obscure anecdotes. The prophet of Islam definitely wasn't one to turn the other cheek or keep his worldly appetites in check.

You want the truth? Think you can handle it? Well, here you are then...

What Would Muhammad Do?
(a checklist)":

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/WWMD.htm
Posted by Proxy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 7:31:29 PM
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