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The New White Australia Policy

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Yung Yong,
Your statement that: “The values of freedom, democracy and the rule of law are clearly universal values. This is unquestioned by the free Western Nations, however many cultures such as Islam, do nor believe or uphold these values, Iran or Syria for instance. They see the democratic system now introduced into Iraq as a work of Satan that must be overthrown by the true followers of Allah.

Leigh, I totally agree, “Australia should be about Australia; not about accommodating “ethnic communities” wanting to “celebrate their traditions and heritage”, and who do not wish to live in their [native]countries.”

The most important test is do they understand common Australian courtesy, language and law. No society survives in harmony that is divided into tribal communities of social culture, language and law
Posted by Philo, Wednesday, 27 December 2006 3:12:41 PM
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“The Government's citizenship test will most likely cause discrimination against new migrants from new and emerging communities, as well as refugees from non-English speaking backgrounds” is a diplomatically constructed politically correct sentence sounding to non-Anglo Australians as a next testimony to their leaving in a state called Australia different from one its author does.

Only someone fallen from the Moon could use a future verb tense while describing further legitimating of institutional racism and xenophobia well flourishing in Australia already.

I did arrive into conclusion that “Australian multiculturalism” as of the sixties a national-liberal invention preserving traditional Anglo-racism and UK-style apartheid in recent form benefits just a growing cohort of particular bureaucrats paid for singing songs about "multicultural issues", unification of citizens should occur on common civic liberties and real equity rather than on pushing into a circle of a loyalty to overseas royalty by de facto simply preventing non-Anglos from obtaining citizenship's rights of a predominantly Anglo political entity built on the land grabbing and murdering of less fortunate pre-owners.
Posted by MichaelK., Wednesday, 27 December 2006 5:32:09 PM
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I disagree with the assertion that requiring someone to be tested competent in English is racist.

The reasonableness of the requirement can be reflected in the fact that many other countries require migrants to understand the incumbent culture, government and constitutional processes and the language of the land.

The last point “language of the land” is particularly important. It essentially refers to the language which the laws of a country are written in. Ignorance of the law is no defence and anyone who cannot speak English in Australia is living in ignorance of the laws which significantly prescribe and proscribe their actions.

A nation which has multiple “official languages” is fractured and lacks social cohesion, Canada for instance with French being the official language of Quebec and English the official language in the other provinces.

Multi-culturalism is merely a steppingstone to full assimilation, not something which will endure.

Well said Leigh Those who do not want to be “Australian” should go elsewhere.

MichaelK, more of your own form of racism and baseless ignorance. I advised you on another thread, I had decided your facility for chaining English words together, whilst ignoring even the most basic rules of English grammar, was merely the perverted product of your own ignorance. I see you have still to learn the lesson that; simply being ignorant is excuse neither under the law nor from appropriate criticism from me.

Regarding “pushing into a circle of a loyalty to overseas royalty by de facto simply preventing non-Anglos from obtaining citizenship's rights”

If you do not like it, return the festering stinkhole from whence you were spawned, regale them with your racist vitriol and see how long you are tolerated.

As for “Anglo political entity built on the land grabbing and murdering of less fortunate pre-owners.”

That Australia was colonized by the British merely show how fortunate Kooris were. Had they been colonized by the Spanish, French, Portuguese, German, Japanese or Indonesians and colonial history is any basis for assumption, which it is, we would have no “aboriginal” problems today, they would all be extinct.
Posted by Col Rouge, Wednesday, 27 December 2006 7:22:01 PM
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All this talk about "ethnic" communities, as if being ethnic was something different from the "us", every single person on the face of the earth, is "ethnic" something, and that includes Anglo-Saxon-Celtic background Australians. They are English, Irish, Welsh, Scottish, though many like to make much of their Celtic ethnicity. So when you talk about "ethnics", you are including yourself. Britishers are a mixture of nordic/germanic = Anglo-Saxon & Danish & Normans, who were original Vikings; indigenous Britons of various tribes, Celts, through in a bit of Spanish and French. All western Europe was originally Celtic.

Australia does not have a fully developed Australia culture yet, this takes many centuries if not millenia. The Australia culture is still growing, it is still basically Irish, with the English (like Mr Howard) believing they should rule over them.

Mr Howard believes republicanism is being pushed by those of Irish Catholic background in this country, like Paul Keating, I heard him say so some years back.

As for migrants not bringing their ancestral fights to this country, right from the beginning of white settlement till now, there are still the Irish - English disagreements.
Posted by RaggedtyAnnie, Wednesday, 27 December 2006 8:24:53 PM
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RaggetyAnne said:
“Every single person in Australian is a migrant or descendant of migrants unless they are Aboriginal.”

Such a comment is typical of someone who has absorbed the mores of multiculturalism:You see multiculturalists talk of equality but they always have their special status groups -those who are regarded with a little bit more reverence than the rest- and they typically ignore or hide history which is politically incompatible with their dogma .
The truth is, we are all migrants -INCLUDING the aboriginals -its only a question of timing/duration!

And the “racist “ jokes comments etc you heard on the bus/train are not unique to Australian society.
They can be found in all cultures/countries /groups.
A far more virulent form of racism is seizing on such ‘examples’ to demonstrate/prove that racism is somehow endemic to white Australian culture .
Posted by Horus, Wednesday, 27 December 2006 10:04:48 PM
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So, what about "language of the land": "Australia does not have a fully developed Australia culture yet, this takes many centuries if not millenia. The Australia culture is still growing, it is still basically Irish, with the English (like Mr Howard) believing they should rule over them"?
Irish? Scottish-or any other European racist fore-breads - local fascist party then members many of, used to dictation for passing a test on local citizenship?
Posted by MichaelK., Wednesday, 27 December 2006 11:37:42 PM
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