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Posted by Ludwig, Friday, 25 September 2009 10:35:05 AM
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Ludwig
Plagiarize much? << Fascinating. In the last week the media's been full of reports about Australia's burgeoning population and the exponential rate at which it's increasing. The Rudd government has outlined its plans to encourage this trend, which will result in an Australian population of 35M by 2050. Australia's population has increased by 439,000 in the year to March, of which 300,000 were due to immigration. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26110375-421,00.html Various conservation groups and the Greens have expressed dismay at this trend, and have called upon the government to reduce immigration and to promote population sustainability. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,,26092455-1702,00.html If one was "passionate" about promoting debate about a sustainable population at OLO, there is plenty of fodder in these reports to stimulate an intelligent discussion about the pros and cons of increasing Australia's population. However, what does Ludwig do when presented with a prime opportunity to reinvigorate his favourite topic on these pages? >> Posted by CJ Morgan yesterday http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=3080&page=0#72633 What does Ludwig do? Not have an original thought, apparently. Posted by Fractelle, Friday, 25 September 2009 2:35:15 PM
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WTF?
Fractelle – I don’t give a rat’s where Ludwig gets his info from and neither should you. This sad Labor government has totally lost the plot on population growth. We cannot continue to use the “built it and they will come” approach to housing and population. We in Australia still have a chance but only if we replace those who choice to emigrate. In the 1950s the notion of “populate or perish” seemed like a good idea. Rudd’s 1950s population mentality will be a disaster for this country. What are these people going to eat – dust? Posted by WTF?, Friday, 25 September 2009 3:07:56 PM
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Ah, but Kevi wants to win the next election and for that he needs
a healthy economy. Building new houses and trading them with one another, is a major industry in the Eastern States, employing well over a million. Then they all need services and public servants to administer them, more employment. No wonder Kevi pushes for population growth. Never mind, Conroy has just majorly upset 1.4 million Telstra shareholders, the majority who are furious that he is trying to expropriate their hard earned Dollars and encourage yet more Indian call centre fly by nighters, pretending to be telcos. I think he majorly underestimates the fire in peoples belly over that one, politically that will have ramifications he at presently ignores. So Labor might yet land up turfed out on their arse. It happened in WA, when Carpenter became overconfident and arrogant, as our present Feds are doing now. Posted by Yabby, Friday, 25 September 2009 4:34:38 PM
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Nice to see that Ludwig's taken note of my post from this morning on his hate thread and belatedly posted something about the big issue with respect to immigration. Some acknowledgement would have been courteous, but it seems he's been spending so much time intellectually with the haters that he's adopted both their manners and their mendacity.
Given that it's only the Greens and conservation groups that have spoken out against the latest immigration idiocy from the Rudd government, I wonder if Ludwig's going to continue to champion the Coalition as being most likely to reverse this unsustainable trend? Posted by CJ Morgan, Friday, 25 September 2009 7:42:12 PM
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Barry Jones remember him Ludwig?
He headed an inquiry many years ago into Australia's future growth, population growth. Remember Peter Costello? One for mum. One for dad. And one for Australia. Not so very long ago. Barry Jones committee came up with a target that we should aim for a population of 17 to 22 million. That was a recommendation for our sustainable and holding population, we have gone past that number. BOTH party's have played a roll in us getting to this number. So along with your fellow ranters here why blame Rudd? What for, two years of migration, that is how long he has been in power. Ludwig and company words flow with ease, ideas right or wrong flow from your key board. But is there any thought or understanding behind them? I offer as evidence the anti Rudd forces are a far bigger dust storm than red dawn and lack direction understanding and answers. Posted by Belly, Saturday, 26 September 2009 5:55:09 AM
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This is just wonderful according to our 'illustrious' leaders. Wayne Swan and Kevin Rudd are happy to facilitate this growth for ever, apparently.
There's nothing new about that. But what is new is that the Greens and green NGOs are actually having something significant to say about it!
The Australian Conservation Foundation, which has been virtually silent on population growth and genuine sustainability has loudly objected.
And even Bob Brown, another population silent type, has weighed in.
At last, some of the organisations that should have been objecting long an loud for the last twenty years or more are waking up to the utter absurdity of very high pop growth. Or perhaps they've finally located their balls and seen the need to speak out against the rapid-continuous-expansionism / gross-and-utter-antisustainabiliy paradigm.
I now hope that this incredibly stupid rapid growth path that the Ruddites have set this county on will be effectively countered by a strong and united sustainability force, to the point that our current PM and his terribly irresponsible cronies will be booted out of office at the next election, to be replaced by an enlightened opposition that has embraced sustainability!!
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26110375-421,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,,26092455-1702,00.html