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Urban Concentration

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This largely comes back to the idea of creating regional governments under states but above councils, they would be large enough that the State government would be unwise to ignore them, especially if a couple agreed on a certain policy and worked together. In a country as scattered as ours, the areas outside of the capitals influence cannot hope to get effective direct governance from their state capital let alone canberra if the states were abolished. Each of the existing major regional urban areas could serve as capitals of their respective regions, this would provide them with the ability to focus on development and delivery of services to a much more broad section of the population. These new divisions could be implemented by the states delegating certain responsibilties to the new divisons in return to have these divisions being sub-ordinate to the state government in theory at least.
Posted by aussie_eagle2512, Thursday, 1 May 2008 7:35:58 PM
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We have decentralization plans in place even for inland NSW but to ignore the costs, just flippantly say government should pay is ignorance.
How do they pay? not enough money exists in their hands to pay right now.
And while we are heading to wards your wishes we just can not blindly overlook water power hospitals schools the list is endless.
Shrinking manufacturing industries how do we make jobs?
People wanting to live near the coast or in already existing big city's?
Consider tax havens? make real tax breaks say reduce by 50% for business and workers who live in some zones, maybe it would work?
You bet it would.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 2 May 2008 4:49:06 AM
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In the late 40's such a zone existed in WA, No tax or reduced tax above the 38th parallel, just nth of Canarvon.
No registration of fire arms either. So where did it go?
fluff4
Posted by fluff4, Friday, 2 May 2008 8:02:16 AM
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The state governments need to allow a capital city urban area government to be created so that they no longer direct their capital to projects that are capital-centric, which of course chews up much of their budget. There needs to be a seperate metro regional authority to look after such projects.

Stop surrendering and actually keep the metro boundaries that apparently are in place here in Melbourne at least, put a stop to supporting capital city growth for the time being even and then save up to create regional governments, one by one. They could simply base the regions on the census regions, or have a community-based vote or something on the matter of which region they'd like to be a part of, then use that as a guide for the exception that the regions would need to be based on similar population levels (except of course for the capital regions).
Posted by aussie_eagle2512, Friday, 2 May 2008 8:20:42 AM
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Some years ago there were also labor plans to change our system Govt to one similar to France. The scrapping of state govts were of course part of the plan.
Regions were to be formed into "provinces" and provincial govts founded. Elections to the provinces took place and from there national representatives elected.
This was hot topic in Nimbin say 20years ago, and has stayed with me all this time as being worth the effort of greater thought.
First instead of selecting boundaries by electoral numbers they were to be geographical and time boundaries. The way those elected reps were selected from the "provinces" for "federal" representation wasn't clear maybe I don't remember.
This I believe should be explored when any change to a republic is considered.
Anyone else heard of such proposals?
fluff4
Posted by fluff4, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:21:21 AM
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I am sure of the many different people who have paseed through politics over the century have proposed things that are echoed on political forums such as this, however getting such things to pass is another whole matter. Other than just general opposition, there seems to be a great timidness among our governments to engage in anything that might compromise big influential stakeholders, in this case the State Governments. However, the idea if it being considered in a saught of package with a republic seems like a good idea, this would fit well with something such as the republic which also of course greatly effects how the Federation is formed. Its interesting France is mentioned, they are of course of a much smaller size than us but with about 3x the population, they have Regions, Departments, Arrondissements, Cantons and finally the Communes. A France-based but streamlined version could possibly work well here.
Posted by aussie_eagle2512, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:21:50 AM
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