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HOMOPHOBICS - please explain!
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Posted by izzo, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:34:02 AM
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I have to agree that whenever issues of homosexuality come up on these posts it is almost exclusively concentrated on gay men. Even BD does not mention homosexual women as apparently his god only condemns two men lying down together.
Surely if a person is opposed to homosexuality they would have to feel as disgusted, outraged and ready to move house if a gay couple moved in next door (BD's favoured option) whatever the gender of the couple? It does not therefore seem unnatural to me that many people have claimed that heterosexual men's aversion towards gay men is based, in large part, upon perceived threats to their own masculinity. Whitty:- you mention the "camp" thing again. I am not an expert but some of my own gay friends who camp it up (for some of whom it is only public behaviour and not done at home)have talked about it. For them its rather like those people who turn a joke against themselves before others can do it. Actually the reasons are myriad and deep but it is an assumed behaviour. Sometimes it becomes habitual. Hmm, I would also be interested to know if anal sex is only disease carrying when its indulged in by gay men? Are all the straight couples who indulge in it also crowding the hospitals? Posted by Romany, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:54:52 AM
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izzo - I'm not surprised at all by the vitriol in response to your post. Whenever topics associated with male homosexuality are raised at OLO there is inevitably a litany of ranting and raving from that small minority of (almost invariably) men who are affronted by other people's sex lives.
Many of them attempt to rationalise their homophobia by reference to religious texts, while others seem to be more of the knuckle-dragging poofter-bashing persuasion. However, I think that what they all share is a certain fragility in their own sexuality as men, such that it always ends up being a case of them "protesting too much, methinks". Personally, I don't care what consenting adults do with each other,so long as it doesn't frighten the horses. Col Rouge - good one. See, you can be witty without being nasty. Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:55:08 AM
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Izzo,
"And anal sex is practiced by hetrosexuals as well!" I did say that. And I did say what of thought of it - it is still using the dirtiest part of the human body for sex, no matter who does it; burrowing into ordure! It is unnatural for both homos and heteros. You thought Australians were far more "open minded". Where do you draw the line on being open minded? How disgusting do things have to get? I also said that, although you asked a question of what you call 'homophobes', the 'homophobe' haters would butt in and, sure enough.... I smiled at the homosexuality you see everyday on the farm. What a strange farm it must be! A bit of bum sniffing between animals doesn't lead to homosexuality. In the meantime, I hope that your kids never put you to the test re their sexualtiy. We often find the theory of how we would react is much different when it comes to the pratice. Posted by Leigh, Thursday, 20 March 2008 11:05:20 AM
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Romany,
'It does not therefore seem unnatural to me that many people have claimed that heterosexual men's aversion towards gay men is based, in large part, upon perceived threats to their own masculinity. ' I don't doubt this is the case some of the time. But there are a lot of other forces at play. A lot of people, even gay men themselves, are disgusted by anal penetration. That explains some of the inconsistancy in relation to attitudes to lesbians. That and lesbians being glorified in porn. And I have already discussed my objections to camp behaviour. FRACTELLE , With regards to lesbian porn, I don't think it's homophobia to not be interested or turned on by males and rather watch two individuals you find attractive rather than only one. Some of the guys in porn are pretty ugly. Ron Jermey anyone? CJ Morgan, I don't think religious people who object to gays are necesarily homophobic. Posted by Whitty, Thursday, 20 March 2008 11:17:41 AM
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Dear Boazy
Could you have sex with a male? Could I have sex with a female? No way! That also applies to those who are gay and are often forced by family or society to become "heterosexual" thus having to lead a life of misery and deception. So what's all the fuss about? Why should humans be any different to the hundreds of other species who also engage in homosexual acts? A friend of mine, a smart young man about town, was quite scathing of gays. "Shirt lifters, poo shooters!" he would call them. However, my God (Karma) works in weird and wonderful ways. The smart young man about town unwittingly married a very smart young woman whose two brothers are gay! Runner. I suggest you obtain the current statistics on the numbers of heterosexuals infected with syphillis, gonorrohea, chlamydia, hepatitis, herpes, HIV etc and see how these diseases are being spread through "normal" sex. Here are some sobering statistics for your perusal: http://www.ashastd.org/learn/learn_statistics.cfm Perhaps you should ponder on Boazy's words of wisdom: "How can you tell your brother about the speck in his own eye when you do not see the plank in your own?" Posted by dickie, Thursday, 20 March 2008 11:41:45 AM
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Col Rouge - LOL!