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Don't Apologize For Me!

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"As dearest Margaret Thatcher said "You may have to fight a battle more than once to win it"...." (Quote:Cringe)

You mean like the Poll Tax?
Posted by Ginx, Friday, 15 February 2008 1:02:07 PM
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Romany:
Very well said!....I sincerely hope we will see a massive infusion of National Pride across the Nation!....It has been sorely lacking for many years!
Posted by Cuphandle, Friday, 15 February 2008 4:35:07 PM
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OK ! Now that so many have had a go at approving/disproving the appology I'd like to suggest:
Rather than constantly countering someone's comment let's have suggestions as to what we can do to make fewer mistakes from now on. Those who insisted that the most wrong was done to the indigenous should come up with ideas as should those who insisted that it was not should also come up with ideas. We all agree that injustices occurred from BOTH sides. Incompetent bureaucracy is on both sides. Peadophilia is on both sides. Crime is on both sides. Stupidity is another thing both sides have in common. So, all you good people who let bad things happen by doing nothing, get moving. don't criticise other's proposal, suggest another angle & explain why you think it is flawed. If we can get a single page of common ground on this thread we're halfway there. Just imagine if we could leave future critics speechless because we've done things right. Prove that you have more foresight than your ancestors & don't make mistakes for which your descendents cop blame like we blame our forefathers.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 16 February 2008 1:36:03 PM
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Dodson & Ross & Central Land Council purport the Land Trusts as the private land owners, are not required to issue tenants with valid leases for their homes (constructed mostly with public funding).

Refusing their tenants - mostly "Traditional Owners" valid leases for their homes, claiming such leases unreasonable...

Then Mick Dodson and David Ross with the Central Land Council argue that "Traditional Owners" living in their "Traditional homelands" communities do NOT have:

- right for family to live with them ;

- right for family to visit them ;

- right for friends to visit or stay with them ;

- right for qualified tradespeople to visit and conduct repairs ;

- right to run a business under fair, reasonable and equitable terms and conditions;

- right to construct or live in a house (under fair, reasonable and equitable terms and conditions) ;

- right to obtain a fair, reasonable and equitable terms and conditions lease for their home (constructed with government monies) ;

- right to work (under fair, reasonable and equitable terms and conditions) ;

- right to receive legal assistance to have legal issues arising considered judicially ;

The Alice Springs town camps rejected $60 million in public funding for housing rather than issue tenants with leases, same reasoning.

Elsewhere in Australia such approaches quite rightly deemed repugnant and racist.

Start improving things for people in these areas by requiring Land Trusts etc issue all their tenants with valid leases... but of course be prepared for the objections, for giving people leases gives them rights and responsibilities.

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Posted by polpak, Saturday, 16 February 2008 4:37:27 PM
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Dear Romany,

Beautifully put.

Dear Col Rouge,

Margaret Thatcher - was a bit of a misguided lady at times.
I have just one example - Gulbuddin Hekmatyar (received tens of millions of CIA dollars).He was a brutal fanatic. Hekmatyar's speciality was traficking in opium and throwing acid in the faces of woman who refused to wear the veil. Invited to London in 1986, He was lauded by Prime Minister Thatcher as a "freedom fighter."

When the People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA) finally fell in 1992, the West's favourite warlord, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, rained American-supplied missiles on Kabul, killing 2,000 people, until the other factions agreed to make him Prime Minister
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 16 February 2008 8:58:26 PM
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Romany:
Very well said!....I sincerely hope we will see a massive infusion of National Pride across the Nation!....It has been sorely lacking for many years!
Cuphandle,
I sincerely hope so. The wound has now been dressed. Treatment must now continue in earnest. We must keep the blowflies away at all cost. Don't remove the bandage because someone will try & pick the scab. let's not allow the healing to be jeopardised by removing the stitches before the wound is closed. Be patient with the patient. We don't want to end up with a hypochondriac.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 17 February 2008 8:07:05 AM
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