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Thought police & why john howard is absolutely spot on
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Posted by Lefou13, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 3:49:25 AM
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The trump card of the lefties when it comes to discussions about individuals not of this continent is the race card. 'specially when they run out of logical points. I run 'middle of the road'. I have my love for animals and their well being, but hate idiots with a passion....of any breed or creed.
Many a career has been flushed down the preverbial because of voicing an opinion about various topics relating to immigrants. Before I get crucified (by rope, not nails, move on) I must say I'm an immigrant. My only criteria for immigration would be an understanding about muliticultural societies, an EXCELLENT grasp of english, written and verbal, and of course the infrastructure to support them. 99% of immigrants HAVE TO 'hit the ground running', and want to, like I did. I don't think the gulags in the desert and on Nauru are the way to go. Why are people afraid of voicing their concerns and ideas?. There is no 'middle-'o-the-road' room for discussion. EVERY SINGLE TIME it will get railroaded by agenda driven lunatics. Left and right. It will happen here. Posted by StG, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 7:52:05 AM
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Dear Lefou
spot on about the 'aside from the banter, we care for each other'.. exactly. We are kith and kin in many ways. Most important is VALUES. Stg..I quite agree about the 'gulag' of Nauru.. there is much more to that decision than 'a way of dealing with illegal immigrants'..but I dare say they won't be sharing all those issues publically intil 2030ish There are some interesting vids on Youtube at the moment. Lefou..you might find this interesting..I sure did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXeTP9J3i28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXeTP9J3i28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXeTP9J3i28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yRPivkPTzY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68WPG-TLMJM amazing stuff. Posted by BOAZ_David, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 11:51:02 AM
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It all becomes too much to worry about.
However multiculturism is dead and it was not buried by Australians, it was buried by the various migrant groups. They realised their numbers had reached a point where they could throw their weight around and there was nothing "we" could do about it. Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 12:45:24 PM
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As someone who describes himself as “English by Birth, Australian by Choice” I feel can contribute to this thread.
My concern is the immigrants who attempt to settle in foreign lands must understand that the onus is on them to “fit in”. it is not on the community they seek to join to make way for them. Lefou13,, as one who voted for JH & Co, I can empathise with your support for his view. JH was an admirable national leader, who many will start to miss once the socialists start to dismember and wreck the economic system which JH & Co built, for the benefit of all. I heard a comment of the radio the other evening in the debate about the questions on the citizenship test. Some federal labour politician commented that 90% of applicants eventually passed the test. What the heck does that mean? – if they don’t pass the test why are they being accepted for citizenship? If the test means anything. 100% of applicants should be passing. The ones who fail the test don’t get to become citizens. I do not think Australia needs its to extend citizenship rights to those who, clearly, do not understand the history and values of the community they are seeking to join. Oh and no dispensation for the ethnic origins of those who fail. I had to jump over hurdles to qualify to migrate here. I don’t see why everyone else should not be so tested as well. Simply put, if you cannot or do not bother to assimilate into the country one migrates to, you will likely to live a very sad and unfulfilling life. Better to bugger off back where you came from Posted by Col Rouge, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 2:45:31 PM
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"For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased;
and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted." Luke 14:11 I find it so depressing reading your posts... Am I the only one? I don't see in any of them - compassion - which should be a springboard of the human conscience integral to our future survival. An essential factor for a country (and world) where people can live with dignity, without fear, in an environment of peace and justice, safe in the understanding that the human endeavour has still got soul. So, so, so sad... Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 6:28:10 PM
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never more so since we heard what JH had to say about immigrants. if only someone here or in europe had the balls to stand up and do the same.
we all think it. we all know there are problems and huge frictions to be faced in the near future.
my question is simply this: when and why did europeans become so afraid of what they are thinking and how their thoughts may offend immigrants to our nations?
why is this side of the coin rarely discussed in public? it amazes me.......