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Immigration Minister Kevin Andrews

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Incase you've been off the radar. Immigration Minister Kevin Andrews has unloaded several mags of racist ammo on probably the most victimized people in recent history, the Sudanese/Sudanese Australian community. Google it, if you have too.

Just this morning Immigration Minister Kevin Andrews had another go, apparently attempting to justify his blatant racism by using some 'proof' and 'justification' of his mouth flapping open.

"Immigration Minister Kevin Andrews has condemned an assault on a police officer by a group of youths in Melbourne's south-east as not reflecting "the Australian way of life".

A detective suffered a chipped tooth and sore leg after being king-hit and kicked after approaching a group of young men while on patrol in Noble Park about 2am today.

Police, who are questioning an 18-year-old man over the incident, have confirmed that the group approached by the detective included Sudanese youths.

Speaking outside the Metropolis international conference on migration, Mr Andrews said the attack was not an isolated incident, although he declined to provide further details."

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/cop-attack-unaustralian/2007/10/11/1191696039363.html

What a blatant piece of tripe. This fella needs to come up with some evidence of the Sudanese being justifiably singled out from other immigrant communities, or step down.

Immigration Minister Kevin Andrews has apparently got a habit of letting his mouth flap open like its hinges have rusted off and refusing consistantly to provide statistics, justification and even support from the police who've basically said "what you talkin' 'bout willis?.
Posted by StG, Thursday, 11 October 2007 2:46:26 PM
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StG the police dont use statistics to vilify a particular race or group of people its not there job to do that. Its there job to enforce the law and that’s it!

I would be interested if anybody could find any instances of police commissioners singling out particular ethnic groups as being more susceptible to crime.

Bring all the Sudanese to Australia is not going to change a single thing back in the Sudan! It will just cause divide in the Australian community.

I think the best option which I think both sides could agree on is giving the Sudanese (and all refugee’s for that matter) temporary protection visa’s and once things die down in there country of origin they can return.

The facts are that refugee’s are going to be causing an increase in crime for decades to come! This is common knowledge and any body denying this will only be showing their inability to grasp reality
Posted by EasyTimes, Thursday, 11 October 2007 8:19:06 PM
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You're quite correct, StG - this is blatant dog-whistling at its worst. Anybody who doesn't see through this blatant ploy is either catatonic or racist.

ET: "StG the police dont use statistics to vilify a particular race or group of people its not there job to do that. Its there job to enforce the law and that’s it!"

Er, yes - but what do you say about police stats that indicate that the crime rate among Sudanese immigrants is the same or less than for the general population?

Andrews is an odious turd, and always has been since he was elected. He and the tired government of which he is a Minister deserve to be chucked out on their arses. And not just because they're trying to play the 'race' card yet again.
I suspect there'll be few surprises in who responds to this particular dog whistle at the ballot box.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 11 October 2007 8:56:38 PM
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As someone said in government, it says a lot about what he thinks of his fellow Australians, when he believes he will benefit from targeted immigration policy like this.

You know it *SHOULD* be Islamic people. But he knows all to well that there is a sizeable muslim population and that Australians can see through the sham that is the Iraqi war.

So what does he do to trigger the racist emotions alive before this election, and at the same time avoid a political backlash from the targeted group? Andrews picks a group of Africans. A tiny minority, but symbolically much greater than their voting footprint.
Posted by Steel, Thursday, 11 October 2007 9:21:05 PM
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Should there be any white refugees in the near future should they be taken half way around the world and resettled in an African country or resettled somewhere in a peacful white country? Which makes the most sense? It is not commonsense to bring these people half way around the world to settle them in an alien culture when they could be settled in a peaceful African state. Why doesnt Mandela offer to take them, Is he a racist against Africans from other states or something.

What the hell do you think they are escaping from over there?. Tribal territorial warfare!! Why set the stage for the same thing here when you can plainly see the tribal terriotiral warfare happening in all the trouble spots in the world.
Posted by sharkfin, Thursday, 11 October 2007 10:51:50 PM
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Alright, EasyTimes...

"the police dont use statistics to vilify a particular race or group of people its not there job to do that."

It's *nobody's* job to vilify a particular race, unless their job is to create division and unease. And actually, what the police have done is use statistics to demonstrate that all races *other* than Sudanese ones are slightly more likely to commit crimes.

"I would be interested if anybody could find any instances of police commissioners singling out particular ethnic groups..."

There have been police operations investigating organised crime among certain nationalities - Italians, Chinese, Vietnamese, even Russian.

"Bring all the Sudanese to Australia is not going to change a single thing back in the Sudan!"

Nobody is proposing bringing *all* the Sudanese to Australia (which would absolutely change everything in Sudan). The ones brought here are those that genuinely have nowhere else to go, and the purpose is to assist those individuals, not solve the crisis in Sudan - although a case could be made that overpopulation in Sudan has been part of the problem.

"I think the best option...is giving the Sudanese...temporary protection visas and once things die down in there country of origin they can return."

Mostly certain they *can* return. But if the situation in their countries of origin lasts long enough and the refugees put down roots here (getting permanent jobs, having babies etc.), forcing them to go home is hardly reasonable.

BTW, if say, an unprecented natural disaster occurred in NZ, and we accepted thousands of refugees from there, how strongly would you feel about the need for them to return?

"The facts are that refugee’s are going to be causing an increase in crime for decades to come! This is common knowledge and any body denying this will only be showing their inability to grasp reality"

Actually the facts are that refugees have been causing crime at rates not measurably higher than Australian-born and regular migrants. This is basic statistics and anybody denying this will only be their inability to grasp reality.
Posted by wizofaus, Friday, 12 October 2007 7:32:12 AM
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