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One in three victims of family violence is male : Comments

By Greg Andresen, published 27/11/2009

Government policies have been based on the assumption that almost all perpetrators of domestic violence are male and almost all victims are female.

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Greg, this is a great piece and the new website 'oneinthree' would have to be the best thing we have seen in a long time.
It is about time we started to see some truth in this debate and someone actually starting to publicly fight the lies that come from the radical feminists in our society and our govt.

There are so many statistics out there that prove women are as violent as men are, but also that mothers abuse their own natural children up to 3 times more than the natural fathers do. Yet we hear nothing of this lie in the media either.

I wish there were more men and women standing up to fight these lies. One reason they aren't, is because the media refuses to report the truth. Your website will go a long way to helping this.

It's also time we start educating girls and women in Australia that it is not okay to abuse men and boys. Australian females have a distinctly arrogant attitude toward men and most seem to agree in part or in whole, with the radical feminist mantra. Even if they don't adopt this code to live by, they still think it is funny to see men demeaned or vilified in the media and they will always trust another woman over a man as an automatic response, because they have been taught that all men are abusers and paedophiles, whereas women are morally upright humans, who live their lives as victims.
These lies must be put right, before our society is totally destroyed.

Now we have these lunatics in Victoria forcing this vile feminism on vulnerable children in primary schools.
When will this evil be stopped.

Paw
Posted by Paw, Friday, 27 November 2009 6:25:12 PM
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I would have thought Sykes, Suzie et al would have been posting by now.

David Penberthy wrote;

"THERE is an angry core of Australian men who use cyberspace as the latest forum to unload on how women have done them wrong "
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/white-ribbon-day-in-forums-sight/story-e6frfhqf-1225803968252

It would appear he has as much sympathy as Hitler did for the jews.
Posted by JamesH, Friday, 27 November 2009 8:21:36 PM
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Hmmm, women are as violent as men, huh? Let's review the Domestic Homicide Stats for South Australia for 2009. 14 dead. 9 women, 5 men, 4 of whom killed themselves and one shot by police in a hostage situation. All of those men who killed themselves decided to take their partners or ex-partner with them. As reported in the news, one woman was fleeing to a neighbours house and her partner walked right up to her as she begged her neighbour to let her in, took out his gun, and in point blank range, shot her in the back of the head while she was cowering. Yeah, so let's equate something like that with a bloke getting a whack around the back of his head with a handbag.

The references used in the "Fact Sheet" are narrow and tend to concentrate on the Conflict Tactics Scale. The CTS does not take into account stalking behaviours, homicides or assaults AFTER the relationship has ended and equates the emotional expression of women who throw a cup or saucer in response to their frustrations when experiencing psychological and verbal abuse with that of a man throwing something more substantial in an attempt to physically harm his partner or to threaten her or deliberately damage her treasured possessions. It also does not cover threats to a persons (usually the woman's) pets, children or other family members. Nor does it cover social or financial abuse. The CTS is usually correlated to young(er) men and women's relationship dynamics and respondents tend to be University students. Most of whom, have not been in long-term committed relationships
Posted by shivers, Friday, 27 November 2009 9:28:10 PM
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Quote:

"Yeah, so let's equate something like that with a bloke getting a whack around the back of his head with a handbag."

How about a woman who attacks her husband with a knife, but due to greater strength he is able disarm her, all without causing her harm? Knives kill. Bit more than being hit across the back of the head with a handbag.

Or having the steering wheel grabbed by the woman whilst the man is driving so as to try to cause an accident? Bit more than being hit across the back of the head with a handbag.

That is my situation: my wife suffers from borderline personality disorder. 75% of BPD disorder sufferers are female. Not all BPD suffers are violent, but quite a number are. But this is seen, in women, as a medical issue. In men it is a domestic violence issue.

Our home is well known to the police. Is it because of my violence? No, it is due to her's. We have had our door knocked in by heavily armed police - I was not even home. Was she taken to the cells? Was she charged (it was a seige situation)? No, she spent two nights in hospital.

So here is the situation: When she is violent and taken away by the police it is by ambulance. Is this recorded as 'domestic violence'? No, it is a medical situation. If I, or any other man, acted in the same way we would be carted off to the cells and be charged.

I do not dispute that men are responsible for most of the violence in this society: but not for all of it.

The classic example, recently there were two cases before the courts. One was a man who threw his daughter off a bridge, the other a woman who drowned her son in a suitacse.

Guess which one got most of the media coverage? Guess which one was seen as 'bad' and the other as 'mad'?

Consider how statistics, and circumstances, can be manipulated one way or another.
Posted by Dougthebear, Friday, 27 November 2009 11:38:40 PM
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Hey Shivers,

It is obvious you are a feminist or a sympathiser of feminism. YOu have used all the same excuses they use and you have said in the above post that you agree to women using violence, but not men.
You discount women as being weak victims when in truth this is not the case.

The problem with feminists and their ilk, is that they do not want the truth about the dirty bad behaviour of women brought to the public attention. Women are no less violent than men, but are more violent toward their own children than the natural fathers are. You can check that for yourself with the WA dept of child protection figures from the last 4 years.

It is time we stop accepting your lies and the lies of feminists in this country who continue to push these false stats about men abusing women. They have no basis in reality, yet they are used to formulate govt policy and legislation.

The time has come for all the good men and women in this country to unite and force the govt to have all DV laws scrapped, all gender discrimination removed from all govt and NGO policy.
We need to have assault laws more fortified and if anyone is harmed whether it's inside a family or out in the street, then it is assault and it should be reported to the police, who should then investigate it and the alleged perp stand before a jury and if found guilty, be punished accordingly.
Furthermore, if a person is found to have made a false allegation of assault, then that person should also be charged, investigated and stand before a jury. If found guilty, they should be imprisoned for a minimum of 12 months to 2 years.

This will put an end to the constant Tsunami of false allegations made by women post separation, just so they can get the house, the money, oh and I forgot, the kids too.
Posted by Paw, Friday, 27 November 2009 11:45:26 PM
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Hi Keryn: very sad to hear about your son's plight.

Possible courses of action:

Assuming that he doesn't want to leave yet but you expect a repeat of the abusive behaviour, help him to put a safety plan in place:

Any social worker in any local community health centre will be able to give your son advice. If they can't help directly then he should ask for referral to someone who will. Even counselling notes become an official record that provide some concrete evidence to protect your son against charges of being the aggressor.

For the same reason he must contact police and go to ED or his GP to have any injuries noted.

Contrary to prevailing beliefs, many DV services WILL assist your son. If he's the victim of violence they can and often will fund emergency accommodation in a safe location (not in the shelter itself; but in the community) for him and his child (they will help with pets if they can). They're also very knowledgeable about legal services and court procedures. Suggest he phone a couple of shelters and have a chat.

Otherwise suggest that your son approach legal aid (some neighbourhood centres also provide free legal consultation for anyone) so that he understands what he needs to do to protect himself, his child and any financial assets.

You can also help by keeping a diary of events.

He can also talk to someone at the cop shop for a bit of advice. The police are very good at responding to these matters and very experienced with all sorts of abusers of both sexes. Some police stations have DV specialists available for consultation.

Lastly, he should try to speak to her GP, especially if she has a drug or alcohol problem, and let them know what is happening.

Any of those sources will give advice tailored to your son's location and situation. I hope things improve for him and for you all.

pynch
Posted by Pynchme, Saturday, 28 November 2009 12:34:42 AM
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